Thats what I'm saying:
I think their main argument was that there hasn't been any research.

Statistics count as research, and we have plenty of that.
Then we have CAPSoff, and the research paper as well!

From my post at https://forum.colemak.com/viewtopic.php?id=121:

Shai (and I) have released all Colemak images to the public domain and anything that promotes Colemak is welcome. I think I can answer yes on his behalf, provided that a reference is given.

Uh, "the Colemak" isn't more painstaking to type than "the Dvorak" or "the QWERTY". It's already an acronym you know. And you don't want people to think of colonels, colons or columns instead of the Colemak. I'd say no.

CKL/COL might be good for in-forum use though.

What about CLK? It kinda sounds like Colemak, but it could abbreviate Colemak layout (for) keyboards

Anyway, we need to dig some stuff up.

Here's an idea that I don't know if anyone here has done or even considered.

Why not GET some press/media coverage?

One idea would be to get Shai to talk to his local newspaper.
This may be getting too personal, but how old IS Shai?
I'm just thinking... "17 year old revolutionizes the modern keyboard"

The thing is, this is newsworthy. I'm just thinking... is there some kind of element that we're overlooking?

Here's an idea to get it in the news, but it's out of my own resources to figure out.
How much does the average person/american type in their lifetime? How many words?
We could translate that into DISTANCE. It would probably end up being thousands of miles/kilometers.

Once you figure out how much the average person types, you can use these ratios:
Number of Words:     3411
Number of Letters (no spaces):     16889
Number of Letters (with spaces):     19857
Translates to
QWERTY:
479.1meters
Colemak:
250.1meters
(Optional)Dvorak
276.1meters

*Leave Dvoark out because these statistics do not really show why Dvorak is not as good of an alternative.
**These statistics were found by using the Keyboard Compare Applet and an 11 page essay that I wrote. They may not be as accurate as needed for the massive translation from something so small to something so large.

By the way, I can do a little spainish. My vocabulary kinda sucks, but I've got better grammar than one of those automatic translators.

ESTIMATE:
100 words a day (most people could do that in less than 3 minutes, so that's very lenient)
365 days a year
60 years (we can't type forever, so it can't possibly be the entire life expecancy. Most cant type for the first 10 years anyway)
is
2,190,000 words

QWERTY:
300,000 meters

Colemak:
160,000 meters

I would expect real, more accurate numbers to show a difference FAR greater than this 14 km (that's 8.7 miles)

Guys, please, tell me how many keys are the same between COL and qwerty. I counted 12, but i'm not sure that's right... i need it for the wikip article.

hey, no! the y doesn't stay the same!! i cant trust you i have to count myself... :P ;D

lol no problem... the article is far from finished anyways. i have a pic of what it looks like at the moment... print screen and paste into paint.. :D

i did

this isn't EXACTLY the right use for it

Try docs.google.com
It autosaves, and if you wanted, you could set it up so others can edit it - even while you're still editing it. It's amazing when you've got two people working on it at once.

Look, NeoMenlo and Vilem: Could you guys try to refrain from spamming down the forum with chat please? Send each other emails if you want to banter; it gets so cluttered up here. Counting the keys that stay the same isn't a matter for the forums but for your eyes (or an email if you cannot count). Nor is discussing timezones in great length and an excessive post number.

Sometimes, a "chat post" in the forums is okay. But in that case, make a new topic so you don't bury something useful with it. Some readers will tire of your jolly chitchat and lose the thread. Others like me, will just get grumpy and lose their cool.  :)