I don't plan on updating the project anytime soon given the current circumstances, but you can fork the project and add it if you want (repl.it, search user Smart0ne, project Transitional Colemak).
]]>Will you add Tarmak-DH-ISO as well?
]]>edit: :w00t: Finally 30 WPM on Tarmak 3
]]>You probably want this one for Tarmak 1:
https://dreymar.colemak.org/res/cmk/tar … _RBo_E.png
By the way, I tried out your tool since I wanted to link to it, but I couldn't get it to work? I switched to a QWERTY US layout and suspended EPKL, but the letters were all red and Space didn't work. I must be doing something wrong...?
]]>The BigBag link:
https://dreymar.colemak.org/
If you just want the Tarmak link:
https://dreymar.colemak.org/tarmak-intro.html
I thought it'd be logical enough for users that I show the ISO progression and how to make the ANSI one. But you're not the first one to ask so maybe I'll have to add the actual ANSI images to the BigBag pages as well.
However, they can still be found in EPKL:
https://github.com/DreymaR/BigBagKbdTri … rlDH-Angle
Thanks for giving me credit. Not everyone do, it's appreciated.
]]>Also, sorry if this question has been asked before, but how hard is the transition from Colemak to Colemak-DH?
]]>the bottom row is shifted constantly to the right
Only if you define it as such. You could equally define it as being "shifted half a key to the left". That's the point: the physical keyboard geometry is what it is, and so people can adapt to it however they want. There is no authority enforcing the "shifted to the right" idea, or going around checking people are using the middle finger for Qwerty C. All that stuff is just historic convention - and highly illogical at that.
The essence of being an alternative layout user is that efficiency trumps outdated conventions. If we all just stuck with convention we'd still be using Qwerty.
If you want geometrical symmetry then that's impossible because each top row and number row key would correspond to the edge between two keys on the other hand.
We were not discussing the top row, only the bottom row C,D,K,H keys (in the image above) and their position in relation to the home keys. And those are symmetrical. Of course, people can still use the assymetric fingering system on the bottom row if they really want to, but it's nonetheless objectively worse.
How is it objectively worse to avoid CT bigram? Colemak is designed for the staggered fingering (with no intent to make CT same finger) and the DH I have shown does not change it. For the DH I have shown, the staggered fingering (52 points, as in Colemak) is better than the 'Angle' fingering (63 points) for same finger and does not require diagonal (relative to the stagger direction) movement for the D.
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qwfpbjluy;arstgmneiozxcdvkh,./
ue9 kn9 sc8 pt5 ln4 wr3 kl2 dg2 tb1 tg1 az1 ml1 nh1 yi1 mn1 dv1 fs1 mh1 jm0 lh0 jk0 bv0 qa0 pb0 rx0 mk0 gv0 td0 jl0 db0 pg0 jn0 bg0 qz0 wx0 fc0 pd0 pv0 jh0 tv0 kh0
Same finger points: 52
qwfpbjluy;
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vzxcdkh,./
qwfpbjluy;arstgmneiovzxcdkh,./
tc20 ue9 kn9 pt5 ln4 wr3 gd2 kl2 mn1 yi1 tg1 tb1 nh1 ml1 vd1 mh1 fs1 rz0 lh0 pc0 bd0 jk0 qa0 jm0 sx0 mk0 pb0 jl0 cb0 pg0 jn0 cg0 bg0 wz0 fx0 td0 pd0 cd0 kh0 vp0 jh0 vt0 vg0 vc0 vb0
Same finger points: 63
(Note: I did take into account the positioning in the v for the second one, as seen in the list of same finger bigrams.)
]]>the bottom row is shifted constantly to the right
Only if you define it as such. You could equally define it as being "shifted half a key to the left". That's the point: the physical keyboard geometry is what it is, and so people can adapt to it however they want. There is no authority enforcing the "shifted to the right" idea, or going around checking people are using the middle finger for Qwerty C. All that stuff is just historic convention - and highly illogical at that.
The essence of being an alternative layout user is that efficiency trumps outdated conventions. If we all just stuck with convention we'd still be using Qwerty.
If you want geometrical symmetry then that's impossible because each top row and number row key would correspond to the edge between two keys on the other hand.
We were not discussing the top row, only the bottom row C,D,K,H keys (in the image above) and their position in relation to the home keys. And those are symmetrical. Of course, people can still use the assymetric fingering system on the bottom row if they really want to, but it's nonetheless objectively worse.
How is it objectively worse to avoid CT bigram? Colemak is designed for the staggered fingering (with no intent to make CT same finger) and the DH I have shown does not change it.
]]>the bottom row is shifted constantly to the right
Only if you define it as such. You could equally define it as being "shifted half a key to the left". That's the point: the physical keyboard geometry is what it is, and so people can adapt to it however they want. There is no authority enforcing the "shifted to the right" idea, or going around checking people are using the middle finger for Qwerty C. All that stuff is just historic convention - and highly illogical at that.
The essence of being an alternative layout user is that efficiency trumps outdated conventions. If we all just stuck with convention we'd still be using Qwerty.
If you want geometrical symmetry then that's impossible because each top row and number row key would correspond to the edge between two keys on the other hand.
We were not discussing the top row, only the bottom row C,D,K,H keys (in the image above) and their position in relation to the home keys. And those are symmetrical. Of course, people can still use the assymetric fingering system on the bottom row if they really want to, but it's nonetheless objectively worse.
]]>They are equivalent geometrically - C is midway between S and T, and H is midway between N and E. OK, so the traditional scheme says to use middle finger for C, but if that's really more comfortable, why don't people use their middle finger for H? Obviously that's an absurd suggestion, but it's logical counterpart of using middle finger for C. The fact that H is highlighted and people think it's a comfortable position for the index finger, tells you all you need to know.
Even if people reject all common sense and insist on using middle finger for C, that still doesn't explain why D is treated differently from K in that image, as those two keys are also symmetrically equivalent, and both with index fingers, even in the traditional finger scheme.
The keyboard is with stagger, not curl. Stagger is of course asymmetric as the bottom row is shifted constantly to the right (and top row to the left). Using the middle for H would go against the stagger. If you want geometrical symmetry then that's impossible because each top row and number row key would correspond to the edge between two keys on the other hand. The constant shift is how stagger fundamentally works.
The C cannot be on index finger because DH does not intend to make CT same-finger. It's not the Workman C.
The D is treated differently from K, because of, again, how the stagger works. Moving down from T and N (with stagger, not curl) makes D and H. The right hand then has to move left to arrive at K.
]]>Even if people reject all common sense and insist on using middle finger for C, that still doesn't explain why D is treated differently from K in that image, as those two keys are also symmetrically equivalent, and both with index fingers, even in the traditional finger scheme.
]]>But that doesn't make sense. In your image, C and H are in equivalent positions, as are D and K.
If someone thinks the D in that image (Qwerty V key) really is better, then logically, they must also think K (Qwerty N key) is better too. I don't see how anyone could actually think those keys are better - unless their hands are approaching the keyboard in a very uncomfortable angle.
C and H cannot possibly be equivalent in the staggered layout. C with middle, H with index. This is not a CT same finger layout. D is a move down with the stagger but K is diagonal. If they think index is better that doesn't mean they think diagonal moves are better.
]]>If someone thinks the D in that image (Qwerty V key) really is better, then logically, they must also think K (Qwerty N key) is better too. I don't see how anyone could actually think those keys are better - unless their hands are approaching the keyboard in a very uncomfortable angle.
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