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    AltGr clicking in the USA

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    I'm thinking about buying a Filco.

    I will probably opt for the US layout.  Despite being based in the UK.  I like the symmetry of the US keyboard and like the fact that the enter key is a little nearer.   I am thinking though of perhaps moving modifiers up to the tab and pipe spots at a later time.  Or even doing something radical like turning them into backspaces, or relocating the enter key.

    On the wikipedia article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_a … _keyboards

    It suggests that there is no AltGr, but this isn't the case is it? 

    I'll have to rehome the tilde, and my broken pipe (is this used ever?) and backslash - that may well present a problem.  A benefit of keeping with the UK layout, is that there is more room for a wide mod.  I think that's why Dreymar champions it.   I could even transpose my right home position by two keys if needs must.

    Am I loosing out at all by choosing the American style physical layout?

    Last edited by pinkyache (19-Sep-2012 12:05:14)

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    I prefer the US layout because of the Shift length. On UK layout the left Shift is quite short.

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    Layouts use the RAlt key as AltGr, so that should be taken care of. Haven't heard of that being a problem, other than the other way around (US users wanting the RAlt and getting AltGr).

    I do NOT want to be stuck without the 102nd key of the ISO board. Then again, I'm Norwegian so I really need it. ;)

    The distance to the Enter key is no problem for a Wide mod user (which also solves the distance to the Back key and makes RShift as close as the LShift is on the ANSI keyboard), as you say. It goes both ways - the ISO keyboard facilitates a Wide mod, which facilitates it if you get my meaning.

    Frankly, I think the US recalcitrance to accept the new keyboard design from IBM (ISO) back then is in style with their inability to grasp simple concepts like evolution and for some odd reason still be worth reckoning with... :þ

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    Watch it there Dreymar, or you might just find an unmaned remote plane, hovering over your house soon.

    Forgive the ignorance... but what's the difference between RAlt and AltGr?  And what are they commonly used for anyway?

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    On a standard US layout, the right-hand Alt key is called just that - RAlt for short. Some have it mapped to something special or are just used to having an Alt key there for menus and stuff so they get annoyed at "international" and other layout that use it for AltGr.

    AltGr means 'Alternate Graphics' so its function is to provide the "level 3 and 4" (in unix X terminology) glyphs.

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