Says up to 26 simultaneous keys on the Amazon page. I'll test it later. I amend my wording then to "a useful amount of KRO", at least for steno and gaming, compared with most keyboards.

What is "perfect"? Perfect for what?

And soarer knows everything and he posted on an internet forum, so it must be true.

So I click that link, and I'm taken to a page where someone is basically trying to sell their book.

The Sidewinder X4 is not only "good enough" for steno, it has in my experience of using it for steno, no problems with unregistered keys. So in that sense it is "perfect". I asked you what you defined as perfect. I have not come across a steno outline that requires more than 17 keys pressed together.

So you rely on a fallacious strawman argument.

You davkol argue not from experience but your own theories. You are more interested in pretending to be the expert on everything. Please go away.

And read: Nirvana fallacy

No. This is my thread, I don't like people who waste my time on ridiculous arguments and who prefer that to speaking from experience.

It's been going on since the beginning of this thread. People constantly voicing their uninformed opinions.

I don't think you'd like it if I came on your thread and started acting like I knew everything.

The troll here is you DreymaR, I have asked politely before that you too stop commenting here.

You haven't asked politely that I'm aware of, but used some lame Brit sarcasm and general unpleasantness. And I will have you know that this was a respectful community with largely open-minded discussions before you came along – sometimes heated and lacking in balance, but never quite as inflammatory and insulting as you seem to instigate them. You may not be aware of it, not having seen the difference and seemingly lacking self-awareness.

Maybe all nice people who sometimes like to throw out opinions and thoughts without checking references or spending time on proper research beforehand should just take your advice and leave "your" thread. Then you can hobble around in here on your own. I wish Shai would tell you off (or me, if he thinks I'm the one that's out of line here!) for your childishness, but his style of moderation is usually low-key so I don't have too high hopes in that respect.

This isn't your forum, even if you started a thread. Others have the right to voice their opinions and thoughts as long as they follow the forum rules, and that's how a forum works. If you want something of your own you're more than welcome to create it and invite people over. These are the Colemak forums and not your private part of the woods.

Your opinions and observations are welcome in "my" threads of course – especially if voiced respectfully.

Your rudeness is almost enough to put me off of trying out T9-Qwerty again.

I did contemplate experimenting with Autokey, so I went back to Phraseexpress to try and grab the word list / maps.   The pxp files don't appear to be in a human readable format.

I read how to make a text expander file, and tried to export Phraseexpress phrases for text-expander.  But that didn't seem to work, or rather, it didn't spit out an XML file that I expected (that I might have been able to process).  Maybe the free version is crippled.

Autokey appears to keep phrases/aliases in different files, so if I had even a small dictionary of mappings I'd require hundreds of files.  I don't know if that is problematic.  Autokey might import the phrases internally into a more optimised format.   It doesn't appear to be able to import phrases from other programs.  Phraseexpress will import loads of formats, that it then appears to keep captive.

It did beg the question: is there a limitation to the amount of aliases you can use in these programs?

(Perhaps I'd be better with Autokey to try and use a 'Script', rather than use 'Phrases' for something like that.)

I realise that you are using Phraseexpress to demo a T9 implementation, so perhaps performance doesn't matter for now.  I do wonder if you can use something like Phraseexpress with a huge dictionary of mappings.

I've worked out how to prototype T9 in Sublime.  So if I get the urge or inspiration in the future I might give it _another_ try.

There is a software that apparently enables dual mice. It's called GlovePIE. It supports "Mice with up to 5 buttons and 2 scroll wheels" on Windows.

You run a script called MouseParty and it claims to allow control of up to four mice.

Interestingly, one person wanted to use it for gaming specifically because their wife suffered from carpal tunnel.

It even claims to let you control PC games with a Nintendo Wiimote!

I've just noticed that the T9-QWERTY pxp file was down all this time. Here's the reuploaded file:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/j69bn … QWERTY.pxp

Anyway, we're making headway folks. Someone called Folio has kindly volunteered to help start things off on the coding side. See the thead: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56009.0