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    Blast from the past!

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    http://capsoff.org/forum/t-291/colemak-keyboard-layout
    http://capsoff.org/forum/t-1380/the-asset-keyboard

    Reading the comments from the CapsOff pages, I found it interesting to read what Shai had to say about the ASSET (and his own ASETION) layouts in relation to Colemak, back when everything was freshly forged!

    Too bad he never published his own layout analyzer, but at least it's described there.

    I'm puzzled about ASSET. It's mentioned on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout/chart ) but I haven't heard of anyone actually using it anymore? It doesn't score well in tests either. Even its creator, David Piepgrass, said that he thought Colemak was a better layout if I remember correctly, and he kept changing ASSET to be more like Colemak in the period from 2004 to 2006. Also, look at where he places J for instance... *tsk tsk* In fact, the only layout I know of with such a horrible horrible J placement is ... Tarmak1 :-D

    Probably just Wikipedia cruft, I guess. Few people actually delete old stuff from there I guess. Not the place to go for a comparison of what works, but rather for fairly comprehensive lists of what people have cared about at some point.

    Last edited by DreymaR (13-Feb-2015 13:47:24)

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    That's a very interesting discussion from back in the early days of the layouts. I remember looking at CapsOff many years ago - it was what first inspired me to remap the caps lock key long before I started getting in to alternative layouts proper.

    The nice thing about Asset is it tries to keep the most common keys on the same Qwerty finger at least. I found this idea quite attractive when first comparing the different layouts. Unfortunately Asset is rather flawed, as you say the J is a waste of a good space. Also it makes the same mistake as Colemak with its D and H in the middle. In one of my many experimentations in layout design, I once came up with a "better Asset"...

    Q W U D P J L Y K ;
    A S E T G H N I O R
      Z X C V B F M , . /

    The idea would be to put U and E on the same column, as per Colemak. Apply the D>P>G rotation to get G back in its Qwerty place. And a few other changes such as getting J out of the way. Not entirely happy with the KO column though.

    It is especially good if you are one of those who types C with the index finger, as it neatly avoids the CE bigram. In that case you get 1.6% same finger bigrams, nearly as good as Colemak's 1.5%. And all that for only 15 keys moved, many of which remain on same finger as Qwerty!

    Maybe I'll write up my alternative layout designs at some point, but still, none of them are quite as good as Colemak plus DH mod.

    Last edited by stevep99 (17-Feb-2015 15:38:45)

    Using Colemak-DH with Seniply.

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