Thanks, good to hear about pleasant experiences with Vim.

For now I changed the navigation keys to the right hand, because I use "Caps Lock" key as "Control" by the left hand and I customized more my bash environment.

So I'm using a bit customized Colemak and I have in my vimrc:

set langmap=nh,ek,ij,ol,hn,ke,ji,lo,NH,EK,IJ,OL,HN,KE,JI,LO

I use the same navigation keys for the arrow keys, configured in Konsole (Ctrl-N -> Left Arrow, Ctrl-E -> Up Arrow, Ctrl-I -> Down Arrow, Ctrl-O -> Right Arrow)

I had to shift the navigation keys to the right, because Ctrl-H is used by default for "Backspace" in Bash and I want the same keys in Bash, Vim (using by Ctrl in Bash)

I'll be experimenting further.

It sounds like what you need is the Extend layer.
It gives you what you have already but so much more besides!
Check out DreymaR's topics.

Whether Vim and Bash usage would suffer from the Tarmak path is an interesting question! I'd think not for the most part, since it's mostly about mnemonics. Vim commands are mostly by letter and therefore they'll move with your understanding of the letters' position – I should think.

The exception would be that accursed HJKL cluster. It's very positional indeed, and some vimmers advocate using other navigational methods as much as possible because it can get clunky. I find that Extend navigation fits well enough with Vim: For instance, you can still use numbers to amplify Extend-commands. I also like that they're omnimode. So I don't care about the HJKL arrows anymore, and leave my vimconfig as it is.

But if you're reliant on the cluster, it's not hard to leave it invariant while learning Colemak I think. Eventually though, you may want to move beyond it.

For me once I was happy with Colemak I think vim bindings weren't a issue any more.
But I am still contemplating whether to remap the vim movement keys to n(left), e(down), i(up),o(right) Which I already have mapped in my POK3R for movement.

This is my exact feeling as well, on many of our servers here I also share the config with others as well, and they would be annoyed if their vim suddenly behaved differently :p

Welcome to Hogwarts! ;-)

At precisely which point was Slytherin not part of Hogwarts, in your opinion? ;-)

But... but... Norman sux big time on important stats like same-finger! And the UHK "Extendoid" layer is weaksauce. I have no idea how you came to those conclusions.

I'd be guessing it's the Fn or "Mod" layer on the UHK. Intrigueingly, it's the same nav block as we use in Extend, that I came up with ages ago! I'm curious about whether they thought it up by themselves or knew about my work.... But they miss the home row modifiers and use the right pinky for the unimpressive Insert key instead of Backspace, so it ends up as wishy-washy after all. No Extend-Enter either. I've yet to see someone else getting it right. :-)

The F# and Esc-on-Q keys are also placed as in our Extend. But those placements may well be coincidential, I don't know.

At least they have a pair of thumb-Mod/"Extend" keys which should make us happy. ;-)

Actually according to this page, there left hand mod keys are different from the pic above

https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/sta … -shortcuts

They have put window/workspace switching functions.

@DreymaR I agree, Norman is not the best (especially for the bigrams: 'de', 'ed' and the change of semicolon, which is important for me), but for someone used to Qwerty feels easier.

@stevep99 Yes, UHK is a hardware, not a layout, but I can create my own layout by it, easily.
It has 3 'Extend' layers: Mod, Fn, Mouse
Any layer is customizable, so I don't use the default settings. May be in the future I'll post my settings, but for now I'm experimenting.
I have the freedom to do that, so I try to use mostly the home row keys and a few others near the home row