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    Learning colemak while keeping qwerty

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    • Registered: 04-Jan-2008
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    Ok, so usually people say learn colemak exclusively, then you may be able to switch back and forth but you're qwerty takes a hit.  This doesn't really cut it for me, so I've decided to try learning colemak my own way.

    First, how I learnt qwerty.  I spent about a month learning qwerty, the only resource I used was typing of the dead.  I did one hour of this everyday, plus hunting and pecking during the day for whatever I needed to write. Towards the end of the month I realise it was much less hassle to just touch type, this is when I realised I had learnt properly.  This is how I envisage learning colemak, it just becoming easy.

    I also tried to learn dvorak, but when I did I forced myself to switch with no qwerty.  This frustrated me mentally and made my hands very tense, to the point of pain. 

    Now my plan for learning colemak is this: I do a practice session of colemak immediately followed by typing in qwerty, and switch back and forth a bit to make sure I have them seperate.  Now I realise this will probably make learning colemak a lot slower, it means I don't have to have some annoying down time where I can't type.

    I was planning on using ktouch, and later typing of the dead when I've got the hang of the basic letters. 

    Has anyone tried a method like this before?  Can anyone offer help or suggestions?

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    • From: Houston, Texas
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    I can't find it but there was a poster that maintained near their original speed by 15 minutes of daily typing in Qwerty IIRC, but then 2 hours of practice in Colemak.   Their Colemak speed eventually surpassed their Qwerty speed. 

    I think the order matters and helps explain why they were successful at this.  If you start daily refreshing a learned pattern you won't loose it. Then follow the reinforcement of something you know by practicing a new pattern followed by rest during which you give brain time for consolidation of the new learning, you are much more likely to efficiently learn the new pattern.   

    I think your plan is going make it more difficult to learn Colemak than necessary.  It's a recipe for memory interference and goes counter to what we know about skill acquisition and memory retention.

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    Did they do no other typing than that?  I use a computer a lot, and if I end up frustrated by not being able to type then I'll just give up, like I did with dvorak.  I'm not 100% this will work tbh, but if it does then I won't have an annoying transition period.

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    I gave up with colemak,  dvorak just seemed easier and more comfortable, I'm now typing on it fairly quickly, though not qwerty speeds.  Something just felt right about dvorak this time I tried it.

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    steelmole said:

    I gave up with colemak,  dvorak just seemed easier and more comfortable, I'm now typing on it fairly quickly, though not qwerty speeds.  Something just felt right about dvorak this time I tried it.

    no problem...whatever layout makes you happy ;). Enjoy using dvorak.

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    • From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
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    I've been back on Colemak on and off for the past week and I've actually found it very easy to work with both layouts in the end. I've found that while Colemak works better for ordinary text, I have trouble with it when I'm programming -- mainly because when you're writing code, your hands go all over the place no matter what layout you're using. I'm now using the two almost interchangeably (though I'm still faster on qwerty at present).

    My suggestion is to try a "qwerty by day, Colemak by night" approach. It worked quite well in my experience, and it avoids the risk of having your head bitten off by your boss in the early stages of learning when you are very slow. An hour of practice a day should get you up to speed on it surprisingly quickly.

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