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    Typing From Thought (Not a Screen)

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    I tried searching the forums on this topic, but it's hard to describe.

    Background:

    • I started looking for a new layout in the summer of 2024 (focused on comfort/balance, not speed).
      I got my first split keyboard (Voyager) in August, and started using Colemak at the same time.
      I've practiced at least 30 minutes everyday since then using keybr.com, in addition to using Colemak at work.
      As of now, about three months later, my average wpm on keybr.com is around 60 with 98% accuracy (and my top speed is around 80).

    The issue I've noticed is that I'm much faster typing random words on a screen (like keybr or monkeytype) as compared to typing from my mind on a blank screen. If I'm drafting an email at work, where I have to think up words in real-time (or write this post that is taking forever), my wpm drops to about 30 wpm and accuracy drops as well.

    Is this common? Is there a term for this phenomenon? Is there a different way of practicing to improve this? I don't care about my keybr stats if that type [sic] of practice isn't the best for the real-world usage at work or home.

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    It's not uncommon while you're still quite new. Just keep building your mileage, and you'll be fine.

    I've type-read several books for mileage, which felt both fun and useful. See the BigBag Training page.

    Oh, and: You're welcome to join our Discord server for more discourses.

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    Thanks. Funny you mentioned typing books... I do some of my practice using Entertrained, but the odd thing is that I'm so focused on typing that I don't absorb any of the story or really understand any meaning behind the words.

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    I have a question about Keybr using the voyager keyboard

    I have my Voyager successfully flashed for Colemak DH. And I have keybr set up to display a colemak keyboard on the screen. But when I press the Colemak he thinks I’m pressing a QWERTY key.

    I can’t find where to make any adjustments, but apparently you do know how to use it. What am I possibly doing wrong?


    Thanks in advance

    Greg

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    If your Voyager sends Colemak key presses, Keybr shouldn't think it's QWERTY. In fact, it might result in a perverted "double-Colemak" in which for instance a Colemak E key press (the QWERTY L key) is sent by the keyboard as the E key scan code – but that gets converted by Keybr to F which is the Colemak key sitting on QWERTY E. Sure that's not what's happening to you? You should take care to only convert once.

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    I remember it kind of being the other way round.  When copying prose, I went slower (it's quite an odd thing to do really, I hope it unconsciously has helped improve my spelling), when typing from my mind it felt a little more liberating and faster.  But there's always the bottleneck of thinking speed.  The reality is, that when I am just spitting words on the page, I can go relatively fast, but then thinking, editing and reformulating - everything gets slowed down anyway.  It's great if you can get it out quick on a first draft or for instant messaging (that's a good way to practice too as it's likely more fun backing and forthing between friends).  Remember speech is about 150 wpm (unless you are Italian or Spanish, where it's about 500 wpm).  You might have a lightning fast brain where you think faster than you can talk or one like mine that crawls along like a tortoise.

    It took me absolutely ages (as in years) to build up my WPM, I edged forward from 30 wpm to 80 wpm very, very slowly.  I haven't bothered to practice typing over the last couple of years, and I have even gotten to the point where I probably couldn't even tell you which finger hits what key anymore!  I occasionally fire up monkeytype where I burst at about 100 wpm on a good day.  Don't forget the default for monkeytype are the common words in the English language, and while they are worth practising you'll inevitably be faster on that word set through natural repetition so it is is skewed.

    I think I used dvorak7min/gtypist to learn.  Or some other variant or fork of one of those.  Gtypist laid on heavy punctuation and random capitalisation, that was a complete drag from what I remember when starting out.  I shifted to software like Klavaro where I could paste in my own texts:  alphabetical sentences, common words, bigrams, trigrams, news stories, books etc.

    Try chat.  You might find it's a little easier/faster/less restrictive.

    I know when I am really going for it trying to type as fast as possible my brain feels like it can hardly breathe.  The thought of edging beyond 120wpm or doing that for normal text entry just seems unfathomable.

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