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    This has not been mentioned before in the forums so thought I would mention it. Whenever I know I am going to use another person's computer to type something up. I always carry around my 2 gig flash drive to put portable colemak on that computer temporarily. I tell the person I can't type in qwerty and need to type in Colemak. I ALWAYS get blank looks. Its funny but a little bit annoying some haven't even heard about Dvorak layout.  When they ask why I switched from Qwerty. I tell them its more comfortable, less travel for typing in keys and has made me faster. Is that a good quick response you think? I am curious to know how other people handle similar situations. On a side note, my programmer friend I talked to about Colemak does not like the fact that CAPS LOCK is gone. He told he needs that when he programs. I never knew that so is Colemak worthwhile for programming in general? I am still sticking to Colemak by the way. I just wish it was standard like Dvorak is.

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    jc0481 said:

    On a side note, my programmer friend I talked to about Colemak does not like the fact that CAPS LOCK is gone. He told he needs that when he programs. I never knew that so is Colemak worthwhile for programming in general?

    It depends on what language is used. One of the more extreme cases would be FORTRAN.

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    jc0481 said:

    On a side note, my programmer friend I talked to about Colemak does not like the fact that CAPS LOCK is gone. He told he needs that when he programs. I never knew that so is Colemak worthwhile for programming in general?

    I also heavily use Caps Lock in programming, that's why I edited my Colemak layout file to put Caps Lock and Backspace back to their original positions.

    I really think it would be better if computer systems made it easy to select letter/symbol layouts independently of modifier/control layouts. That way, you could choose to use even the Dvorak layout with the Colemak Backspace.

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    When people try to type on my computer, it comes out gibberish. They're like, "What the heck?" and I grab the computer and switch it over to QWERTY and give it back. Usually they don't ask why it's weird and I don't feel like explaining. Some people, such as my cousin, know why my computer types weird and how to "fix" it. As of yet, everyone I know types on QWERTY.

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    If you are using AutoHotkey like me, you can use a nice trick to automatically switch Colemak on and off:

    Map the Backspace key to suspend the script, essentially switching to qwerty, in addition to generating a backspace character.
    Map CapsLock to unsuspend it, i.e. let it restart colemak (as well as generating the ordinary colemak-backspace, of course).
    It looks like this:

    $Backspace::
    suspend on
    send {Backspace}
    return

    $Capslock::
    suspend off
    send {Backspace}
    return


    This makes the QWERTY-users automatically turn Colemak off when they delete their first letters of gibberish. They probably won't even notice that Colemak was on. A Colemak user will turn Colemak back on the same way.

    It works nicely as long as the QWERTY-user don't try to use CapsLock - they would restart Colemak. You could use another more exotic key-combination to restart Colemak, but I find the symmetry appealing.

    There are of course cases when this doesn't work, but it has saved me from having to 'fix it' a lot of times.

    BTW I press shift+CapsLock to lock the caps. A bit harder to reach, but not much.

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    Very elegant solution.

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    Heh. Will it put the computer in CapsLock mode though? I mean, does the user have to turn off CapsLock afterwards?

    With this, you could also use the CapsLock light as a "Colemak ON" light! Anyone informed could determine the active layout at a glance.

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    Besides turning Colemak on, CapsLock just sends backspace as it should. The keyboard stays unlit.
    Until I turn caps on by pressing shift+CapsLock, of course.

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