Hi bombadil. I know what you mean about the indecision. Like many other people I've used Qwerty, Dvorak and Colemak. There is only one that I have been fully happy with.

When I first started learning Colemak I thought that something would put me off - like the LS issue on Dvorak. Some small yet annoying design flaw that would allow me to avoid the hassle of committing to a new layout and ditching QWERTY. Well, that never happened. For me, Colemak is pretty much perfect.

Edit: Don't obsess about speed. That will come with lots of typing. Lots and lots of typing.

I don't believe it's possible to have perfect layout because we are not all the same.  I very much disliked Dvorak after learning it for a month or so and when I came across Colemak at that time, I very much liked the shape and feel of Colemak and the thought behind it and the reasons for it. 

I think it's wrong to view Colemak as a compromise layout while at the same time to view Dvorak as somehow not being one.   All layouts are full of compromises.   It's a matter of which compromises you prefer.

While this is factually correct, I'd prefer a more informative formulation of it:
- Dvorak emphasizes hand alternation more, whereas Colemak tones down this emphasis and prioritizes rolls instead
- Dvorak and Colemak have nice digraphs; you particularly like the th ch wh ones in Dvorak

...for the sake of clarity in comparison.  :)  The point about choosing compromises is a well-made one indeed.

I'm not sure I understand where people get that the left hand is heavily used in dvorak...Since the vowels are on the left hand, and vowels aren't often used one after the next, should the right hand see more use on dvorak?

Hi I am back again ;)

So I did relearned Dvorak - my previous speed, easyness and all. But after a while I see that I much prefere Colemak although I am a bit slower on Colemak. The speed is not a big deal, more important is how it feels.

Small note for others (dvorakers) willing to try Colemak: do not try pressing more than a 2 keys at a time!

I do not know, maybe its only me but I heard about the rolls (3 letters) and I have tried to utilize them... that is why I chosed Dvorak.  Now when I see 3 letters roll I try to make only 2 letter roll and than the 3rd letter, for example st+ar+t. In fact the pause almost do not exist but thinking of it makes it easy whilst when I think of typing st+art I feel strain. It should be intuitive to me but having heard lots about the famous rolls I overlooked the easy way of typing during my first experience.

I personally dislike Colemak "was" -- and this is the 12th most common word in English according to some sources. Anyway, after a month I still couldn't like Colemak, so I am happy I switched. I think that maybe Colemak requires less effort, but Dvorak is more fun.

Judging layouts based on specific words is a grave mistake. Even if it's the 12th most common word. The brain will tend to amplify the annoyance of the offending words once you start paying attention to them, overplaying their importance to your overall typing efficiency.

As for "was", I'm sure that any Colemak expert will find a smooth way of typing it. I don't think it's too bad myself: First the left hand moves ever so slightly to the left to accomodate the 'wa' digraph, and then it returns for the finish. These hand movements have to be minimal of course, but they help the flow I feel.

Bombadil: You're free to make a Colemak board - I have a bunch of them and it's fun to do. Scroll down this topic for a few images and instructions:
https://forum.colemak.com/viewtopic.php?id=188

Hmm, switching from Dworak the 'wa' had probably killed me :( It's a serious issue, I think of posting a new thread.

vVv I disagree, I never left home row on Dvorak though on large keyboards reaching F needs stretching.

Welcome back!

Bombadil is a merry fellow.
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
We wept when he left because his left was in pain,
Then he trained, lost the pain, and we're merry once again!  ;)