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    Texting Layout?

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    There are all these keyboard layouts, but there are no texting layouts. It is true that it's much harder to type on a texting keyboard, but that doesn't mean it can't be optimized. It's actually really easy to optimize texting for a normal phone.


     1     2     3
    afx   hpb   nmk
    
     4     5     6
    euj   rlv   tdw
    
     7     8     9
    og?   iyq   scz

    The ? means I don't know what to put here.

    I optimized this for minimum finger repeats (which is the same as hand alternation, since there are only two fingers), distance traveled, 50/50 distribution between hands, and a whole new optimization: putting common letters as the primary letter, moderately common ones as the secondary letter, and rarer ones as the tertiary letter. I am assuming that the thumbs rest on 4 and 6, and that the right hand uses buttons 2, 3, 5, 6 and 9 while the left uses 1, 4, 7 and 8.

    Another possibility is designing a layout for a keyboard designed for texting, like the Blackberry or iPhone keyboard. I haven't done it yet, but it might be a good idea to. Texting is relatively new, and who says that they have to use QWERTY? People would be more willing to change to a different keyboard.

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    Texting is horrible. Something MUCH better is necessary - but it'd take more buttons than the mere number pads of today. When will our phones come with buttons along the side, for instance? Those could be modifiers for the thumb buttons on the main pad.

    Meanwhile, I think that a layout like yours may be too complex for most people to learn. What'd be really cool would be something looking like your keyboard but with less buttons. If the pad had 4*4 or ideally 4*5 buttons, one could make a layout that looked like the Colemak (or Dvorak if you'd prefer that) so you'd mostly already know it. That'd be nice. I'm wishing...

    What to do with the hardware we have already then? Not sure, but if the pad could be somehow made to resemble the Colemak it'd be nice. If the left hand uses buttons 1/4/7/8/0 then those could start with A/R/S/T/D and as second/third layer have QWFPG and ZXCVB maybe? As an example.

    Or one could use the numbers in conjunction with their keyboard positions. That'd mean reaching over to the right-hand side of the number pad for left-hand keys and vice versa; not sure whether that'd be too hard - or whether it'd be simple to use the right thumb for those normally left-hand keys.

    1) AQZ1!     2) RWX2@     3) SFC3#
    4) TPV4$     5) DGB5%     6) HJK6^
    7) NLM7&     8) EU<8*     9) IY>9(
                 0) O?;0)

    I believe that what this setup lacks in optimisation it may make up for in ease of learning and remembering. Not yet positive as to how the remaining keys/symbols should be handled; I guess they need to be sprinkled around the keys in some possible-to-remember fashion.

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    I was thinking that learning a texting layout is completely different from learning a keyboard layout, so it doesn't help much to copy the alphabet, or Colemak.

    DreymaR, your layout looks decent. It has the advantage of having low same button usage. Hand alternation is not too great, but that could be fixed. In the following layout, hand alternation is identical to Colemak:

    1) AQZ   2) RWX   3) O?;
    4) SFC   5) EU<   6) IY>
    7) TPV   8) HJK   9) NLM
             0) DGB
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    In addition to ease of learning (I still think it'd hold true for me at least), I was thinking that such a layout would get some of the Colemak's advantages 'for free' - such as same-button, hand alternation and most-common-letters.

    I think your way of putting the buttons on their right sides is better - apart from the slight confusion it'd cause when doing the numbers (and their associated symbols?). One could still ponder exact placements in that context I suppose. Maybe the 3 button is too good for a mere O?; key for instance? Maybe the 0 button's too poor for DGB - or is it just me thinking that some buttons are more easily reached? If the 4 and 6 buttons are indeed the thumb's home position then I guess they should have the most common letter keys; which are the next-in-line buttons? 7 and 9? Maybe...

    1) R   2) A   3) N
    4) S   5) H   6) E
    7) T   8) O   9) I
           0) D

    ??? This looks like it'd be fairly easy to memorize since the Colemak rows are simply 'folded up' as ARSTD -> 21470 and HNEIO -> 53698. Geometrically, that doesn't look too bad.

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    DreymaR said:

    In addition to ease of learning (I still think it'd hold true for me at least), I was thinking that such a layout would get some of the Colemak's advantages 'for free' - such as same-button, hand alternation and most-common-letters.

    I think your way of putting the buttons on their right sides is better - apart from the slight confusion it'd cause when doing the numbers (and their associated symbols?). One could still ponder exact placements in that context I suppose. Maybe the 3 button is too good for a mere O?; key for instance? Maybe the 0 button's too poor for DGB - or is it just me thinking that some buttons are more easily reached? If the 4 and 6 buttons are indeed the thumb's home position then I guess they should have the most common letter keys; which are the next-in-line buttons? 7 and 9? Maybe...

    1) R   2) A   3) N
    4) S   5) H   6) E
    7) T   8) O   9) I
           0) D

    ??? This looks like it'd be fairly easy to memorize since the Colemak rows are simply 'folded up' as ARSTD -> 21470 and HNEIO -> 53698. Geometrically, that doesn't look too bad.

    That looks better than mine, except that it puts O with the consonants. O and N could switch. That would be more confusing, but it would increase hand alternation.

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    1) R   2) A   3) I
    4) S   5) O   6) E
    7) T   8) H   9) N
           0) D

    ARSTD -> 21470 and HNEIO -> 89635. If you want to keep the consonants together while also keeping the Colemak rows, maybe that's better. I didn't want to put the HNEIO on 58963 as that'd demote the 'E' to the bottom row. On the downside, the right-hand row is a bit more folded up on this one; not sure whether that matters.

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    Does anyone have a working implementation of any of these alternative texting layouts? :-)  I think these are all good ideas, but I have yet to see a cell phone that allows changing the standard E.161 layout...

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    ghen said:

    Does anyone have a working implementation of any of these alternative texting layouts? :-)  I think these are all good ideas, but I have yet to see a cell phone that allows changing the standard E.161 layout...

    I for one don't, it was just theoretical.

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    On a side note to this topic: Young Kate Moore of Iowa just won a US speed texting competition, so I wanted to know her speed. Couldn't find it per se, but stumbled across another article in the process.

    Basically, the best you can do on a previously rehearsed mere 160-letter message lies in the 230 CPM range, which translates to about 45 WPM (if you disregard those abrviatns lik wht ths txtrs do and apply the usual 5-letter-word rule; which I think is the right way to go about it).

    Those are the speeds of the best of the best. There was also a recent study in Sweden that shows discomfort and pain (mainly in neck and arms, but also head, hands and thumbs) in many young texters. The current method is wrong in so many ways. I think this drives home the point of how useful any improvement to this much-used medium would be.!

    On the other hand, a conversation generally holds 160+ WPM apparently. Oh, to have slipped the surly bonds...

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    A phone such as a Blackberry or iPhone that has a full keyboard is far superior to a mere number pad. I think that in ten years or so, nearly all cell phones will use those. So we need a good layout.

    The optimal method of typing on a miniature keyboard is with the thumbs. The criteria are vastly different.

    -Same finger is no longer a problem, since each hand only has one finger.
    -Hand alternation should be optimized.
    -Because of the size of the keyboard, most positions can be reached equally easily.
    -How are finger rolls to be done? Should combos like "th" be placed next to each other, or be on opposite sides of the keyboard?

    @DreymaR: I think the speed texting record is 60 wpm.

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    SpeedMorph said:

    A phone such as a Blackberry or iPhone that has a full keyboard is far superior to a mere number pad.

    I think not, especially not the iPhone which uses an on screen keyboard. There's no tactile feedback at all there, and because of that I text far faster and more accurately using a conventional T9-system with physical buttons.

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    There are MessagEase layouts!

    1) A  2) N  3) I
    4) H  5) O  6) R
    7) T  8) E  9) S
          0) D

    Banned from Colemak

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