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    Legal Issues with Colemak

    • Started by paynito
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    • Registered: 02-Feb-2010
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    I am one of the many now looking for work.

    Many jobs required me to take a typing test at their company or at the Texas Workforce Commission.  I was only able to get 43 WPM with qwerty, but I can do 55 with Colemak.  Are colemak users protected under anti-discrimination or anything?  Only if you have a Dr.'s note about carpel tunnel?  Post your experiences w/ enlightening your boss about your use of an alternate layout on a work computer, or especially about how you got them to let you use Colemak during your typing test.

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    • From: Houston, Texas
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    Interesting,  I suppose it's going to depend a lot on the work situation.  Small company is likely to be a lot more flexible, but some large company with an actual IT department might give you trouble depending on their software policy.   Would 43 vs 55 actually make much difference if say you had other skills they were interested in ?   Anti-discrimination laws are generally about something you can't change about yourself (race, age, disability) and not something like the degree of skill you have at a particular task.  I am not sure that you could even make a sufficiently strong argument with medical record of carpal tunnel syndrome.  CTS has many causes and so you would first have to prove it was caused by typing using Qwerty.  Second, just about every computer has Dvorak already and the employer could simply argue that there is no discrimination since any employee with CPI can use that instead of Qwerty there being no documented evidence that Colemak is any better or more comfortable of an optimization than Dvorak.  He can also argue based on normal expectation of standard business practice.  You want to get hired for job for which the ultimately determining factor is typing speed, well insisting on using Colemak for the test is probably not as good strategy as increasing your Qwerty speed and then after you get hired see how to adapt so you can work using Colemak.

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    Yes, it is an interesting problem. In the couple of years I've been using Colemak, I've had to mention it quite a few times to employers/workmates. Mainly to warn them if they use my computer and freak out. Without exception I've been met with bafflement. Nobody has ever understood the need for it before my explanation. It's perceived as "being different for the sake of it". I've tried all sorts. Ergonomic, optimised, modern, designed for computer keyboards rather than typewriters, etc and still people don't get it.

    Here's what I've found to work the best:

    1. Tell employer/agency you don't use QWERTY. You use a different layout - will that be a problem?
    2. Don't go into any details about why. They aren't interested.
    3. If they say "No, it has to be QWERTY", ask them why.
    4. If they don't know, ask them who does.
    5. If they say "It's policy". Ask to see the policy.

    Most people don't touch type nowadays, at least in the UK. They *need* to see the keyboard. When they find out we can think for ourselves and *choose* a layout, these people often get a bit annoyed. Don't let them deny your layout without a fight!

    Good luck my friend.

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    • From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
    • Registered: 11-Jun-2007
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    I'd have thought that if you are having trouble getting past the bureaucracy to install Colemak, the best course of action is to have a friendly chat with Occupational Health. Any organisation large enough to care about locking your workstation down so you can't install Colemak is likely to have an Occupational Health department large enough to give some weight to your request if you can get them on your side. They also have a duty of care to help you prevent RSI, not just not discriminate against you if you've got it.

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