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    International Fork of DreymaR's ‘CurlAngle(Z)Wide(')-ANSI’

    • Started by drujd3ka
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    • Registered: 03-Jan-2018
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    Hello everyone,

    New forum, but long time Colemak user here. I've been exclusively typing on standard Colemak layout for a little over 4 years. Recently I started looking at the different Colemak forks and try out what extras they have to offer. So far DreymaR's CurlAngle(Z)Wide(')-ANSI ergonomic mod seems to be the most fitting—I really enjoy the wider hand placement—and I use PKL to emulate the layout.

    I encountered some issues with DreymaR's mod that I decided to fix:

    1) Dead keys wouldn't function: I was unable to type international characters unless the keyboard language was changed on Windows. For example, I couldn't type characters such as ő and ű, ą and ę.

    2) Caps Lock when functioning as ‘backspace‘ would only delete the last typed character when held down.

    I would like someone to go through the layout code for PKL that I had thrown together to make sure I didn't make any silly mistakes—I'm also open to suggestions:

    Spoiler:
    ;
    ; Keyboard Layout definition for
    ; Portable Keyboard Layout 
    ; http://pkl.sourceforge.net
    ;
    
    ;
    ; International Colemak keyboard layout with CurlAngle(Z)Wide(') (ANSI) ergonomic modifications
    ;
    ; Code is forked from:
    ; - VirtualKey/Extendable Colemak CurlAngle(Z)Wide(')-ANSI ergonomic (Øystein Bech 'DreymaR' Gadmar & stevep99)
    ; - Colemak (Shai Coleman)
    ;
    ; Last edited: Jan 03 2018
    ;
    
    [informations]
    layoutname           = International Colemak CAWide Ergonomic Variant-ANSI
    layoutcode           = Intl-Cmk-VK-CAWideErgVar-ANSI
    localeid             = 00000409
    copyright            = Public Domain - colemak.com
    company              = none
    homepage             = http://pkl.sourceforge.net/
    version              = 1.0
    generated_at         = Sat Jan 31 2009
    generated_from       = Colemak.klc
    modified_after_generate = yes
    
    [global]
    shiftstates = 0:1:2:6:7
    
    [layout]
    ;scan = VK	CapStat	0Norm	1Sh	2Ctrl	6AGr	7AGrSh	Caps	CapsSh
    
    ;; Grave accent/tilde row
    ;SC029 = OEM_5	0	`	~	--	dk7	~	; US ISO
    SC029 = OEM_3	0	`	~	--	dk7	~	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC002 = 1	0	1	!	--	¡	¹	;
    SC003 = 2	0	2	@	--	º	²	;
    SC004 = 3	0	3	#	--	ª	³	;
    SC005 = 4	0	4	$	--	¢	£	;
    SC006 = 5	0	5	%	--	€	¥	;
    SC007 = 6	4	6	^	--	ħ	Ħ	;
    ;SC008 = OEM_4	0	=	+	--	×	÷	; US ISO
    SC008 = OEM_PLUS	0	=	+	--	×	÷	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC009 = 7	4	7	&	--	ð	Ð	;
    SC00a = 8	4	8	*	--	þ	Þ	;
    SC00b = 9	0	9	(	--	‘	“	;
    SC00c = 0	0	0	)	--	’	”	;
    ;SC00d = OEM_PLUS	0	-	_	--	–	—	; US ISO
    SC00d = OEM_MINUS	0	-	_	--	–	—	; QWERTY ANSI
    	
    ;; Tab row
    SC010 = Q	5	q	Q	--	ä	Ä	;
    SC011 = W	5	w	W	--	å	Å	;
    SC012 = F	5	f	F	--	ã	Ã	;
    SC013 = P	5	p	P	--	ø	Ø	;
    SC014 = B	1	b	B	--	dk10	~
    ;SC015 = OEM_6	0	[	{	--	«	‹	; US ISO
    SC015 = OEM_4	0	[	{	--	«	‹	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC016 = J	5	j	J	--	đ	Đ	;
    SC017 = L	5	l	L	--	ł	Ł	;
    SC018 = U	5	u	U	--	ú	Ú	;
    SC019 = Y	5	y	Y	--	ü	Ü	;
    ;SC01a = OEM_1	4	;	:	--	ö	Ö	; US ISO
    SC01a = OEM_1	4	;	:	--	ö	Ö	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC01b = OEM_7	4	'	"	--	õ	Õ	;
    
    ;; Caps Lock row
    CapsLock = OEM_1	0	={backspace}	*{CapsLock}	={backspace}	={backspace}	={backspace}	;
    SC01e = A	5	a	A	--	á	Á	;
    SC01f = R	1	r	R	--	dk2	~	;
    SC020 = S	5	s	S	--	ß	~	;
    SC021 = T	5	t	T	--	dk3	dk4	;
    SC022 = G	1	g	G	--	dk1	~	;
    ;SC023 = OEM_1	0	]	}	--	»	›	; US ISO
    SC023 = OEM_6	0	]	}	--	»	›	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC024 = K	1	k	K	--	dk11	~	;
    SC025 = N	5	n	N	--	ñ	Ñ	;
    SC026 = E	5	e	E	--	é	É	;
    SC027 = I	5	i	I	--	í	Í	;
    SC028 = O	5	o	O	--	ó	Ó	;
    ;SC02b = OEM_2	0	\	|	--	dk8	~	; US ISO
    SC02b = OEM_5	0	\	|	--	dk8	~	; QWERTY ANSI
    
    ;; Shift row
    SC056 = OEM_102	-	_	--	–	—	;
    SC02c = X	1	x	X	--	dk9	~	;
    SC02d = C	5	c	C	--	ç	Ç	;
    SC02e = D	1	d	D	--	dk5	~	;
    SC02f = V	5	v	V	--	œ	Œ	;
    SC030 = Z	5	z	Z	--	æ	Æ	;
    ;SC031 = OEM_MINUS	0	/	?	--	¿	~	; US ISO
    SC031 = OEM_2	0	/	?	--	¿	~	; QWERTY ANSI
    SC032 = M	5	m	M	--	dk12	~	;
    SC033 = H	1	h	H	--	dk6	~	;
    SC034 = OEM_COMMA	4	,	<	--	dk13	~	;
    SC035 = OEM_PERIOD	4	.	>	--	dk14	~	;

    Dead keys:

    Spoiler:
    [deadkey1]
    0    =  731	; ˛
    97   =  261	; a -> ą
    101  =  281	; e -> ę
    105  =  303	; i -> į
    111  =  491	; o -> ǫ
    117  =  371	; u -> ų
    333  =  493	; ō -> ǭ
    65   =  260	; A -> Ą
    69   =  280	; E -> Ę
    73   =  302	; I -> Į
    79   =  490	; O -> Ǫ
    85   =  370	; U -> Ų
    332  =  492	; Ō -> Ǭ
    
    [deadkey2]
    0    =   96	; `
    97   =  224	; a -> à
    101  =  232	; e -> è
    105  =  236	; i -> ì
    110  =  505	; n -> ǹ
    111  =  242	; o -> ò
    117  =  249	; u -> ù
    119  = 7809	; w -> ẁ
    121  = 7923	; y -> ỳ
    259  = 7857	; ă -> ằ
    226  = 7847	; â -> ầ
    234  = 7873	; ê -> ề
    275  = 7701	; ē -> ḕ
    244  = 7891	; ô -> ồ
    333  = 7761	; ō -> ṑ
    252  =  476	; ü -> ǜ
    65   =  192	; A -> À
    69   =  200	; E -> È
    73   =  204	; I -> Ì
    78   =  504	; N -> Ǹ
    79   =  210	; O -> Ò
    85   =  217	; U -> Ù
    87   = 7808	; W -> Ẁ
    89   = 7922	; Y -> Ỳ
    258  = 7856	; Ă -> Ằ
    194  = 7846	; Â -> Ầ
    202  = 7872	; Ê -> Ề
    274  = 7700	; Ē -> Ḕ
    212  = 7890	; Ô -> Ồ
    332  = 7760	; Ō -> Ṑ
    220  =  475	; Ü -> Ǜ
    
    [deadkey3]
    0    =  180	; ´
    97   =  225	; a -> á
    230  =  509	; æ -> ǽ
    99   =  263	; c -> ć
    101  =  233	; e -> é
    103  =  501	; g -> ǵ
    105  =  237	; i -> í
    107  = 7729	; k -> ḱ
    108  =  314	; l -> ĺ
    109  = 7743	; m -> ḿ
    110  =  324	; n -> ń
    111  =  243	; o -> ó
    112  = 7765	; p -> ṕ
    114  =  341	; r -> ŕ
    115  =  347	; s -> ś
    117  =  250	; u -> ú
    119  = 7811	; w -> ẃ
    121  =  253	; y -> ý
    122  =  378	; z -> ź
    259  = 7855	; ă -> ắ
    226  = 7845	; â -> ấ
    229  =  507	; å -> ǻ
    231  = 7689	; ç -> ḉ
    234  = 7871	; ê -> ế
    275  = 7703	; ē -> ḗ
    239  = 7727	; ï -> ḯ
    244  = 7889	; ô -> ố
    333  = 7763	; ō -> ṓ
    248  =  511	; ø -> ǿ
    245  = 7757	; õ -> ṍ
    252  =  472	; ü -> ǘ
    361  = 7801	; ũ -> ṹ
    7777 = 7781	; ṡ -> ṥ
    65   =  193	; A -> Á
    198  =  508	; Æ -> Ǽ
    67   =  262	; C -> Ć
    69   =  201	; E -> É
    71   =  500	; G -> Ǵ
    73   =  205	; I -> Í
    75   = 7728	; K -> Ḱ
    76   =  313	; L -> Ĺ
    77   = 7742	; M -> Ḿ
    78   =  323	; N -> Ń
    79   =  211	; O -> Ó
    80   = 7764	; P -> Ṕ
    82   =  340	; R -> Ŕ
    83   =  346	; S -> Ś
    85   =  218	; U -> Ú
    87   = 7810	; W -> Ẃ
    89   =  221	; Y -> Ý
    90   =  377	; Z -> Ź
    258  = 7854	; Ă -> Ắ
    194  = 7844	; Â -> Ấ
    197  =  506	; Å -> Ǻ
    199  = 7688	; Ç -> Ḉ
    202  = 7870	; Ê -> Ế
    274  = 7702	; Ē -> Ḗ
    207  = 7726	; Ï -> Ḯ
    212  = 7888	; Ô -> Ố
    332  = 7762	; Ō -> Ṓ
    216  =  510	; Ø -> Ǿ
    213  = 7756	; Õ -> Ṍ
    220  =  471	; Ü -> Ǘ
    360  = 7800	; Ũ -> Ṹ
    7776 = 7780	; Ṡ -> Ṥ
    
    [deadkey4]
    0    =  733	; ˝
    111  =  337	; o -> ő
    117  =  369	; u -> ű
    79   =  336	; O -> Ő
    85   =  368	; U -> Ű
    
    [deadkey5]
    0    =  168	; ¨
    97   =  228	; a -> ä
    101  =  235	; e -> ë
    104  = 7719	; h -> ḧ
    105  =  239	; i -> ï
    111  =  246	; o -> ö
    116  = 7831	; t -> ẗ
    117  =  252	; u -> ü
    119  = 7813	; w -> ẅ
    120  = 7821	; x -> ẍ
    121  =  255	; y -> ÿ
    237  = 7727	; í -> ḯ
    250  =  472	; ú -> ǘ
    468  =  474	; ǔ -> ǚ
    245  = 7759	; õ -> ṏ
    249  =  476	; ù -> ǜ
    257  =  479	; ā -> ǟ
    333  =  555	; ō -> ȫ
    363  =  470	; ū -> ǖ
    65   =  196	; A -> Ä
    69   =  203	; E -> Ë
    72   = 7718	; H -> Ḧ
    73   =  207	; I -> Ï
    79   =  214	; O -> Ö
    85   =  220	; U -> Ü
    87   = 7812	; W -> Ẅ
    88   = 7820	; X -> Ẍ
    89   =  376	; Y -> Ÿ
    205  = 7726	; Í -> Ḯ
    218  =  471	; Ú -> Ǘ
    467  =  473	; Ǔ -> Ǚ
    213  = 7758	; Õ -> Ṏ
    217  =  475	; Ù -> Ǜ
    256  =  478	; Ā -> Ǟ
    332  =  554	; Ō -> Ȫ
    362  =  469	; Ū -> Ǖ
    
    [deadkey6]
    0    =  711	; ˇ
    97   =  462	; a -> ǎ
    99   =  269	; c -> č
    100  =  271	; d -> ď
    499  =  454	; dz -> dž
    101  =  283	; e -> ě
    658  =  495	; ʒ -> ǯ
    103  =  487	; g -> ǧ
    104  =  543	; h -> ȟ
    105  =  464	; i -> ǐ
    106  =  496	; j -> ǰ
    107  =  489	; k -> ǩ
    108  =  318	; l -> ľ
    110  =  328	; n -> ň
    111  =  466	; o -> ǒ
    114  =  345	; r -> ř
    115  =  353	; s -> š
    116  =  357	; t -> ť
    117  =  468	; u -> ǔ
    122  =  382	; z -> ž
    252  =  474	; ü -> ǚ
    7777 = 7783	; ṡ -> ṧ
    65   =  461	; A -> Ǎ
    67   =  268	; C -> Č
    68   =  270	; D -> Ď
    498  =  453	; Dz -> Dž
    497  =  452	; DZ -> DŽ
    69   =  282	; E -> Ě
    439  =  494	; Ʒ -> Ǯ
    71   =  486	; G -> Ǧ
    72   =  542	; H -> Ȟ
    73   =  463	; I -> Ǐ
    75   =  488	; K -> Ǩ
    76   =  317	; L -> Ľ
    78   =  327	; N -> Ň
    79   =  465	; O -> Ǒ
    82   =  344	; R -> Ř
    83   =  352	; S -> Š
    84   =  356	; T -> Ť
    85   =  467	; U -> Ǔ
    90   =  381	; Z -> Ž
    220  =  473	; Ü -> Ǚ
    7776 = 7782	; Ṡ -> Ṧ
    
    [deadkey7]
    0    =  126	; ~
    97   =  227	; a -> ã
    101  = 7869	; e -> ẽ
    105  =  297	; i -> ĩ
    110  =  241	; n -> ñ
    111  =  245	; o -> õ
    117  =  361	; u -> ũ
    118  = 7805	; v -> ṽ
    121  = 7929	; y -> ỹ
    243  = 7757	; ó -> ṍ
    250  = 7801	; ú -> ṹ
    246  = 7759	; ö -> ṏ
    333  =  557	; ō -> ȭ
    259  = 7861	; ă -> ẵ
    226  = 7851	; â -> ẫ
    234  = 7877	; ê -> ễ
    244  = 7895	; ô -> ỗ
    65   =  195	; A -> Ã
    69   = 7868	; E -> Ẽ
    73   =  296	; I -> Ĩ
    78   =  209	; N -> Ñ
    79   =  213	; O -> Õ
    85   =  360	; U -> Ũ
    86   = 7804	; V -> Ṽ
    89   = 7928	; Y -> Ỹ
    211  = 7756	; Ó -> Ṍ
    218  = 7800	; Ú -> Ṹ
    214  = 7758	; Ö -> Ṏ
    332  =  556	; Ō -> Ȭ
    258  = 7860	; Ă -> Ẵ
    194  = 7850	; Â -> Ẫ
    202  = 7876	; Ê -> Ễ
    212  = 7894	; Ô -> Ỗ
    
    [deadkey8]
    0    =   42	; *
    126  = 8776	; ~ -> ≈
    99   =  169	; c -> ©
    114  =  174	; r -> ®
    110  = 8470	; n -> №
    100  =  176	; d -> °
    116  = 8482	; t -> ™
    109  =  181	; m -> µ
    112  =  182	; p -> ¶
    46   = 8230	; . -> …
    37   = 8240	; % -> ‰
    43   =  177	; + -> ±
    60   = 8804	; < -> ≤
    62   = 8805	; > -> ≥
    61   = 8800	; = -> ≠
    124  =  166	; | -> ¦
    115  =  167	; s -> §
    
    [deadkey9]
    0    =   94	; ^
    97   =  226	; a -> â
    99   =  265	; c -> ĉ
    101  =  234	; e -> ê
    103  =  285	; g -> ĝ
    104  =  293	; h -> ĥ
    105  =  238	; i -> î
    106  =  309	; j -> ĵ
    111  =  244	; o -> ô
    115  =  349	; s -> ŝ
    117  =  251	; u -> û
    119  =  373	; w -> ŵ
    121  =  375	; y -> ŷ
    122  = 7825	; z -> ẑ
    225  = 7845	; á -> ấ
    233  = 7871	; é -> ế
    243  = 7889	; ó -> ố
    224  = 7847	; à -> ầ
    232  = 7873	; è -> ề
    242  = 7891	; ò -> ồ
    227  = 7851	; ã -> ẫ
    7869 = 7877	; ẽ -> ễ
    245  = 7895	; õ -> ỗ
    65   =  194	; A -> Â
    67   =  264	; C -> Ĉ
    69   =  202	; E -> Ê
    71   =  284	; G -> Ĝ
    72   =  292	; H -> Ĥ
    73   =  206	; I -> Î
    74   =  308	; J -> Ĵ
    79   =  212	; O -> Ô
    83   =  348	; S -> Ŝ
    85   =  219	; U -> Û
    87   =  372	; W -> Ŵ
    89   =  374	; Y -> Ŷ
    90   = 7824	; Z -> Ẑ
    193  = 7844	; Á -> Ấ
    201  = 7870	; É -> Ế
    211  = 7888	; Ó -> Ố
    192  = 7846	; À -> Ầ
    200  = 7872	; È -> Ề
    210  = 7890	; Ò -> Ồ
    195  = 7850	; Ã -> Ẫ
    7868 = 7876	; Ẽ -> Ễ
    213  = 7894	; Õ -> Ỗ
    
    [deadkey10]
    0    =  728	; ˘
    97   =  259	; a -> ă
    101  =  277	; e -> ĕ
    103  =  287	; g -> ğ
    105  =  301	; i -> ĭ
    111  =  335	; o -> ŏ
    117  =  365	; u -> ŭ
    225  = 7855	; á -> ắ
    553  = 7709	; ȩ -> ḝ
    224  = 7857	; à -> ằ
    227  = 7861	; ã -> ẵ
    65   =  258	; A -> Ă
    69   =  276	; E -> Ĕ
    71   =  286	; G -> Ğ
    73   =  300	; I -> Ĭ
    79   =  334	; O -> Ŏ
    85   =  364	; U -> Ŭ
    193  = 7854	; Á -> Ắ
    552  = 7708	; Ȩ -> Ḝ
    192  = 7856	; À -> Ằ
    195  = 7860	; Ã -> Ẵ
    
    [deadkey11]
    0    =  730	; ˚
    97   =  229	; a -> å
    117  =  367	; u -> ů
    119  = 7832	; w -> ẘ
    121  = 7833	; y -> ẙ
    225  =  507	; á -> ǻ
    65   =  197	; A -> Å
    85   =  366	; U -> Ů
    193  =  506	; Á -> Ǻ
    
    [deadkey12]
    0    =  175	; ¯
    97   =  257	; a -> ā
    230  =  483	; æ -> ǣ
    101  =  275	; e -> ē
    103  = 7713	; g -> ḡ
    105  =  299	; i -> ī
    111  =  333	; o -> ō
    117  =  363	; u -> ū
    121  =  563	; y -> ȳ
    233  = 7703	; é -> ḗ
    243  = 7763	; ó -> ṓ
    232  = 7701	; è -> ḕ
    242  = 7761	; ò -> ṑ
    228  =  479	; ä -> ǟ
    551  =  481	; ȧ -> ǡ
    246  =  555	; ö -> ȫ
    559  =  561	; ȯ -> ȱ
    491  =  493	; ǫ -> ǭ
    245  =  557	; õ -> ȭ
    252  =  470	; ü -> ǖ
    65   =  256	; A -> Ā
    198  =  482	; Æ -> Ǣ
    69   =  274	; E -> Ē
    71   = 7712	; G -> Ḡ
    73   =  298	; I -> Ī
    79   =  332	; O -> Ō
    85   =  362	; U -> Ū
    89   =  562	; Y -> Ȳ
    201  = 7702	; É -> Ḗ
    211  = 7762	; Ó -> Ṓ
    200  = 7700	; È -> Ḕ
    210  = 7760	; Ò -> Ṑ
    196  =  478	; Ä -> Ǟ
    550  =  480	; Ȧ -> Ǡ
    214  =  554	; Ö -> Ȫ
    558  =  560	; Ȯ -> Ȱ
    490  =  492	; Ǫ -> Ǭ
    213  =  556	; Õ -> Ȭ
    220  =  469	; Ü -> Ǖ
    
    [deadkey13]
    0    =  184	; ¸
    99   =  231	; c -> ç
    100  = 7697	; d -> ḑ
    101  =  553	; e -> ȩ
    103  =  291	; g -> ģ
    104  = 7721	; h -> ḩ
    107  =  311	; k -> ķ
    108  =  316	; l -> ļ
    110  =  326	; n -> ņ
    114  =  343	; r -> ŗ
    115  =  351	; s -> ş
    116  =  355	; t -> ţ
    263  = 7689	; ć -> ḉ
    277  = 7709	; ĕ -> ḝ
    67   =  199	; C -> Ç
    68   = 7696	; D -> Ḑ
    69   =  552	; E -> Ȩ
    71   =  290	; G -> Ģ
    72   = 7720	; H -> Ḩ
    75   =  310	; K -> Ķ
    76   =  315	; L -> Ļ
    78   =  325	; N -> Ņ
    82   =  342	; R -> Ŗ
    83   =  350	; S -> Ş
    84   =  354	; T -> Ţ
    262  = 7688	; Ć -> Ḉ
    276  = 7708	; Ĕ -> Ḝ
    
    [deadkey14]
    0    =  729	; ˙
    97   =  551	; a -> ȧ
    98   = 7683	; b -> ḃ
    99   =  267	; c -> ċ
    100  = 7691	; d -> ḋ
    101  =  279	; e -> ė
    102  = 7711	; f -> ḟ
    103  =  289	; g -> ġ
    104  = 7715	; h -> ḣ
    383  = 7835	; ſ -> ẛ
    109  = 7745	; m -> ṁ
    110  = 7749	; n -> ṅ
    111  =  559	; o -> ȯ
    112  = 7767	; p -> ṗ
    114  = 7769	; r -> ṙ
    115  = 7777	; s -> ṡ
    116  = 7787	; t -> ṫ
    119  = 7815	; w -> ẇ
    120  = 7819	; x -> ẋ
    121  = 7823	; y -> ẏ
    122  =  380	; z -> ż
    347  = 7781	; ś -> ṥ
    353  = 7783	; š -> ṧ
    257  =  481	; ā -> ǡ
    333  =  561	; ō -> ȱ
    65   =  550	; A -> Ȧ
    66   = 7682	; B -> Ḃ
    67   =  266	; C -> Ċ
    68   = 7690	; D -> Ḋ
    69   =  278	; E -> Ė
    70   = 7710	; F -> Ḟ
    71   =  288	; G -> Ġ
    72   = 7714	; H -> Ḣ
    73   =  304	; I -> İ
    77   = 7744	; M -> Ṁ
    78   = 7748	; N -> Ṅ
    79   =  558	; O -> Ȯ
    80   = 7766	; P -> Ṗ
    82   = 7768	; R -> Ṙ
    83   = 7776	; S -> Ṡ
    84   = 7786	; T -> Ṫ
    87   = 7814	; W -> Ẇ
    88   = 7818	; X -> Ẋ
    89   = 7822	; Y -> Ẏ
    90   =  379	; Z -> Ż
    346  = 7780	; Ś -> Ṥ
    352  = 7782	; Š -> Ṧ
    256  =  480	; Ā -> Ǡ
    332  =  560	; Ō -> Ȱ
    105  =  305	; i -> ı
    108  =  320	; l -> ŀ
    76   =  319	; L -> Ŀ

    Best regards,
    drujd3ka

    P.S.
    If this thread is opened in the wrong section then I would like to kindly ask the moderators to move it to the correct one.

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    Instead of forking/fixing, you could've asked! :-p And since the files are now on GitHub, that'd be the best place to ask. But this place works too.

    I think your topic title is very misleading! I don't see how your fork should be any more international than my files!

    In your posted snippets it looks like you have started with a "virtualkey/extendable" layout but what you posted isn't a VirtualKey layout. This is confusing. What did you do?

    Your dead key trouble is likely because PKL didn't recognize your layout correctly. If you specify your system dead keys right in pkl.ini the trouble should go away.

    What did you do for CapsLock repeat? In my PKL files CapsLock is used as Extend key so you'd need to unset that to let it work as BackSpace.

    Not sure what exactly you did with the dead keys? You've posted a long table but what did you do? My dead key tables let you type 'ő' (AltGr + '=', then 'o') etc.

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    DreymaR said:

    Instead of forking/fixing, you could've asked! :-p And since the files are now on GitHub, that'd be the best place to ask. But this place works too.

    I know of your GitHub repositories, that's where I took your code from. However, I don't have an account and don't see myself using it in the future, so instead I registered here. In the end, the person I wanted to get in contact with was you.

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    I think your topic title is very misleading! I don't see how your fork should be any more international than my files!

    I agree. To be honest, I wasn't sure what to enter there. I only named it “international” because I couldn't type some characters on your layout—I attempted/wanted to fix this.

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    Your dead key trouble is likely because PKL didn't recognize your layout correctly. If you specify your system dead keys right in pkl.ini the trouble should go away.

    I didn't think of this. I'll give it a try. Thanks!

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    What did you do for CapsLock repeat? In my PKL files CapsLock is used as Extend key so you'd need to unset that to let it work as BackSpace.

    Nothing. I copied that line altogether from Colemak's layout.ini. It allowed me to delete text without continuously pressing Caps Lock. I saw the extend key feature in your code—I removed it since I personally find no use for it.

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    Not sure what exactly you did with the dead keys? You've posted a long table but what did you do?

    That dead key table is another copy-paste from Colemak's layout.ini. I don't quite understand it, but I imagine it tells Windows how to combine characters: The dk1-14 codes point to the [deadkey1-14] section.

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    My dead key tables let you type 'ő' (AltGr + '=', then 'o') etc

    This is what didn't work for me. I set the keyboards language to US English and it didn't want to execute any of the dead keys, then when I switched to US English International, it did some. Then, when it was set to Polish QWERTY, it copied them from the QWERTY layout. Pressing AltGr+S resulted in ś, AltGr+A resulted in ą etc. The code I posted above fixes this for me and it works without any issues.

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    Ah. It seems to me that you haven't quite understood the workings of different PKL layout types. Unfortunately, PKL documentation is lacking and I haven't quite fixed this.

    VirtualKey PKL layouts (what you seem to have started with): This layout will not give anything that the underlying Windows system layout doesn't. It merely "presses the keys" for you. Therefore, if you change from, say, US to US International the results of pressing AltGr+<key> changes.
    Fully mapped PKL layouts (what you pasted in): This layout maps the different shift levels to output. Therefore, you can now have AltGr mappings and dead keys that weren't in the system layout.

    You seem to have copy-pasted in from the "Colemak layout.ini", which I take to be Máté's file. Therefore what you have done isn't a fork of my files at all!

    Also, instead of copy-pasting the colemak.ini data into the active layout what you should've done is to point to this layout in the pkl.ini file. ;-)

    I have files for VirtualKey layouts which are easy to write, and fully-mapped files as well. If you look around in the different layout folders you'll see which is which. But the ones I've worked most with are the Colemak[eD] layouts. There are my AltGr and dead key mappings and they are quite extensive. Also, in my not so humble opinion they are a whole lot better than the vanilla Colemak ones!

    If you want to type Polish for instance, I suggest looking into my suggestions for a Polish locale layout. It's found from my Big Bag topic.

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    DreymaR said:

    Ah. It seems to me that you haven't quite understood the workings of different PKL layout types. Unfortunately, PKL documentation is lacking and I haven't quite fixed this.

    • VirtualKey PKL layouts (what you seem to have started with): This layout will not give anything that the underlying Windows system layout doesn't. It merely "presses the keys" for you. Therefore, if you change from, say, US to US International the results of pressing AltGr+<key> changes.
    • Fully mapped PKL layouts (what you pasted in): This layout maps the different shift levels to output. Therefore, you can now have AltGr mappings and dead keys that weren't in the system layout.

    I understand it. This may easily be the case as I also wasn't sure why some of your layouts began with vk_.

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    You seem to have copy-pasted in from the "Colemak layout.ini", which I take to be Máté's file. Therefore what you have done isn't a fork of my files at all!

    Most likely it is his file, although I didn't see his name in it, so I can't judge whether he created it or not—I'd like to believe so. I took certain key placements as yours, for example the Wide Mod-DH cuts the layout in half in a different place.

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    I have files for VirtualKey layouts which are easy to write, and fully-mapped files as well. If you look around in the different layout folders you'll see which is which. But the ones I've worked most with are the Colemak[eD] layouts. There are my AltGr and dead key mappings and they are quite extensive. Also, in my not so humble opinion they are a whole lot better than the vanilla Colemak ones!

    Yes, I've gone through your work numerous times—I respect every bit of it.

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    Nevertheless, you'll see that the layout you've posted above isn't from my work. It has fewer dead key mappings and the standard (and not so good) AltGr mappings.

    This file has my mappings in it.

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    DreymaR said:

    This file has my mappings in it.

    That's great, thinking about it now, this is probably what I was looking for in the beginning. I'll soon take a look at it.

    By the way, if it's not so off topic: How did you come up with all these Colemak variants? Is it part of your work/job or more of a hobby?

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    Colemak and variants/mod of it has been my dear hobby since 2007 when the layout itself was only about a year old (although its predecessors were older of course).

    I've been on these fora ever since, exchanging and thinking up ideas. Together this community has managed to improve on greatness and even improve on the improvements! It's a nice hobby with nice people. :-)

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