Index

›

Technical

›

Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

Started by NottNott
3 Replies:

NottNott
Member

Reputation: 30
Registered: 03-Feb-2018
Posts: 126

17-Apr-2018 14:39:22#1 Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

I've encountered a few issues while installing keyboard layouts native to Windows (sorry AutoHotKeyers!) and I'd like to write something so other people don't get stuck like I did. This might also apply to other versions of Windows.

1. After installing new layout, the keyboard switcher isn't there.

The old control panel way of switching keyboards in Windows 7 and below doesn't have this problem - but it's not enabled by default. This issue only seems to affect keyboard layouts that you install, not ones already on the system. Go to the control panel (not the new Windows 10 settings menu, you have to search for 'control panel'), and go to 'Change input methods'. Then advanced settings in the sidebar to the left.

Tick 'Use the desktop language bar when it's available'. You'll probably have to restart your computer now, but it'll be there on the next login.

Alternatively: press Win+Space to switch between keyboard layouts using the new keyboard switcher. This will work even if the icon isn't in the bottom-right. If this does not work initially, try restarting your computer.

2. How do I disable Ctrl+Shift changing my keyboard layout?
In the advanced settings of input methods (see above), under 'Override for default input method' click 'Change language bar hot keys'

Then 'Change key sequence' in the bottom right.

Change accordingly.

3. After I log in, the keyboard is set to QWERTY - how do I make it Colemak by default?

Advanced settings of input methods yet again (see above). Change the 'Override for default input method' to Colemak.

4. How do I make Colemak the default on the lock screen and for new user accounts?

Make sure you know how to type your password in Colemak, or make sure that QWERTY is still accessible as a keyboard layout on the lockscreen by having it as an enabled keyboard layout! Don't get locked out of your own machine!

Once again in the advanced settings of input methods (see above). Click 'Apply language settings to the welcome screen, system accounts and new user accounts'

Click 'Copy settings'.

Tick the two checkboxes below as appropriate for what you'd like.

Hope this can help somebody, as it was confusing for me to figure all of this out at the time. If these problems don't affect you for whatever reason, consider yourself lucky!

Last edited by NottNott (17-Apr-2018 16:13:16)

I'm reversing short-sightedness naturally! Check out my YouTube channel!
Colemak Petition!

Offline

DreymaR
Member

Reputation: 214
From: Viken, Norway
Registered: 13-Dec-2006
Posts: 5,361

Website

17-Apr-2018 15:46:42#2 Re: Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

Nice writeup! :-)

You could mention that the logon layout affects passwords so you may have to use an invariant one or learn to type your password in both layouts.

Also, instead of the "between layouts" hotkey I often use Ctrl+Shift+1 and 2 to get to the layouts. But nowadays I use Win+Space to cycle layouts as that's convenient.

*** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
*** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

Offline

NottNott
Member

Reputation: 30
Registered: 03-Feb-2018
Posts: 126

17-Apr-2018 16:06:03#3 Re: Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

DreymaR said:

You could mention that the logon layout affects passwords so you may have to use an invariant one or learn to type your password in both layouts.

Done!

DreymaR said:

Also, instead of the "between layouts" hotkey I often use Ctrl+Shift+1 and 2 to get to the layouts. But nowadays I use Win+Space to cycle layouts as that's convenient.

Win+Space uses the newer Windows keyboard layout switcher. For some reason when QWERTY and an installed Colemak layout is enabled, the bottom-leftright icon doesn't appear for some reason. This didn't happen with layouts already installed on Windows. That's why I enabled the control panel switcher - I thought the layout wasn't being treated fairly by the OS. Now I know I can just press Win+Space to switch layouts, and that works fine even though the indicator doesn't appear in the bottom. I'll adjust the guide accordingly.

Last edited by NottNott (17-Apr-2018 16:13:04)

I'm reversing short-sightedness naturally! Check out my YouTube channel!
Colemak Petition!

Offline

deannafuentes
New member

Reputation: 0
Registered: 05-Apr-2019
Posts: 1

05-Apr-2019 06:33:56#4 Re: Fixes for common issues with switching keyboard layouts on Windows 10

NottNott said:

I've encountered a few issues while installing keyboard layouts native to Windows (sorry AutoHotKeyers!) and I'd like to write something so other people don't get stuck like I did. This might also apply to other versions of Windows.
1. After installing new layout, the keyboard switcher isn't there.
The old control panel way of switching keyboards in Windows 7 and below doesn't have this problem - but it's not enabled by default. This issue only seems to affect keyboard layouts that you install, not ones already on the system. Go to the control panel (not the new Windows 10 settings menu, you have to search for 'control panel'), and go to 'Change input methods'. Then advanced settings in the sidebar to the left.
https://i.gyazo.com/40ade4cec279239cbdf … 37078d.png https://i.gyazo.com/d36019bded1ddd743bc … c88334.png
Tick 'Use the desktop language bar when it's available'. You'll probably have to restart your computer now, but it'll be there on the next login.
https://i.gyazo.com/65cb6db6f6fc6823c6b … 58fccc.png
Alternatively: press Win+Space to switch between keyboard layouts using the new keyboard switcher. This will work even if the icon isn't in the bottom-right. If this does not work initially, try restarting your computer.
2. How do I disable Ctrl+Shift changing my keyboard layout?
In the advanced settings of input methods (see above), under 'Override for default input method' click 'Change language bar hot keys'
https://i.gyazo.com/06731bb499e11658a0e … b182be.png
Then 'Change key sequence' in the bottom right.
https://i.gyazo.com/a32dde88eda6fb13ccd … 55e024.png
Change accordingly.
https://i.gyazo.com/99044f5dffbc32a6ad0 … a5a23d.png
3. After I log in, the keyboard is set to QWERTY - how do I make it Colemak by default?
Advanced settings of input methods yet again (see above). Change the 'Override for default input method' to Colemak.
https://i.gyazo.com/06731bb499e11658a0e … b182be.png
4. How do I make Colemak the default on the lock screen and for new user accounts?
Make sure you know how to type your password in Colemak, or make sure that QWERTY is still accessible as a keyboard layout on the lockscreen by having it as an enabled keyboard layout! Don't get locked out of your own machine!
Once again in the advanced settings of input methods (see above). Click 'Apply language settings to the welcome screen, system accounts and new user accounts'
https://i.gyazo.com/1717f978fab89764d3e … e5569f.png
Click 'Copy settings'.
https://i.gyazo.com/52a83aca411947e459c … 5c3488.png
Tick the two checkboxes below as appropriate for what you'd like.
https://i.gyazo.com/b2006395c5483ba1086 … ad813f.png
Hope this can help somebody, as it was confusing for me to figure all of this out at the time. If these problems don't affect you for whatever reason, consider yourself lucky!

Adjust your keyboard settings from the control panel and then check for the errors.

Offline

Index

›

Technical

›