• You are not logged in.

    Esperanto version of Colemak?

    • Started by Soumya-8974
    • 10 Replies:
    • Reputation: 0
    • Registered: 19-Sep-2019
    • Posts: 2

    As you know in my first post, I am yet-to-be an Esperantist. There is an Esperanto keyboard, but unfortunately, it is based on the QWERTY keyboard. Can someone make "Esperanta Kolamaka Klavaro"?

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 193
    • From: Viken, Norway
    • Registered: 13-Dec-2006
    • Posts: 5,287

    Saluton!   (=^・ω・^=)丿

    I think you just need a solution for the accents, really. I wouldn't bother with optimizing a layout for Esperanto since you'll presumably be typing more English than Esperanto anyway? So that's going to be ŭ, and ĉĝĥĵŝ. I can whip one up real quick if you like, it's about the same as many locale layouts. I'd put ŭŬ on one bracket key and a ^ dead key on the other. See my locale topic in the BigBag.

    What platform/OS are you on? And do you use an ISO or ANSI keyboard?

    Last edited by DreymaR (20-Sep-2019 13:31:41)

    *** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
    *** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 1
    • From: New York, New York
    • Registered: 22-Nov-2008
    • Posts: 128

    I love having Dreymar in the community.

    He's just like, I'll whip you up a layout.

    lol

    Colemak typist

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 193
    • From: Viken, Norway
    • Registered: 13-Dec-2006
    • Posts: 5,287

    Well, thanks! But it seems the Esperantisto evaporated?  (ʘ言ʘ╬)

    *** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
    *** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 0
    • Registered: 18-Dec-2022
    • Posts: 4

    Hi! I am another speaker of them esperanto. I have the same question as the first one (even though i am 3 years late haha xD) I'm using Fedora 37 Linux, and would love an esperanto Colemak layout:)

    (Imma do my best to not disappear:)

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 193
    • From: Viken, Norway
    • Registered: 13-Dec-2006
    • Posts: 5,287

    Well, you could use my BigBag files and edit them a bit. Can you have a go at that, or do you need help?

    *** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
    *** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 0
    • Registered: 18-Dec-2022
    • Posts: 4

    I have wanted to make my own layout in the past, but i have no idea how to go about doing so; giving that a go would be very cool but don't know how to start. If you have any resources i can use to get started doing so, that would be great!:)

    Last edited by Lopano (19-Dec-2022 11:51:18)
    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 193
    • From: Viken, Norway
    • Registered: 13-Dec-2006
    • Posts: 5,287

    I had actually started on it. Wow. It's here:
    https://github.com/DreymaR/BigBagKbdTri … mak_eD_epo

    The salient part is here:
    https://github.com/DreymaR/BigBagKbdTri … po#L42-L49

    Now, what I did there was to introduce the Circumflex dead key to one bracket key, and Ŭŭ to the other. Using the Wide ergo mod, that puts them in the middle of the keyboard so you can easily hit them with either index finger. What do you think?

    *** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
    *** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 0
    • Registered: 18-Dec-2022
    • Posts: 4

    I think it sounds cool! My initial reaction is that I might want to move the braket keys away from the middle to the default colemak position (which im more used to). I do wanna try you're suggestion first do. How do i do that?

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 193
    • From: Viken, Norway
    • Registered: 13-Dec-2006
    • Posts: 5,287

    The choice to use vanilla Colemak or the Wide mod (which I feel would be more ergonomic for locale layouts) does not affect the layout itself, since I made it a choice of keyboard "model" instead to keep things modular.

    I'll have a look-see, maybe I can implement it for you if you think it looks okay.

    Meanwhile, my EPKL program for Windows already has a Colemak-Epo implementation. It isn't based on the dead key though, but on a post-hoc Compose method: You can press, say, g then Compose to get ĝ, etc.

    Last edited by DreymaR (19-Dec-2022 14:51:55)

    *** Learn Colemak in 2–5 steps with Tarmak! ***
    *** Check out my Big Bag of Keyboard Tricks for Win/Linux/TMK... ***

    Offline
    • 0
    • Reputation: 0
    • Registered: 18-Dec-2022
    • Posts: 4

    Ah, aright! Imma see if i can get the keyboard to work on Linux by using the files you provided. I don't really know how that'd work but i presume there should be a guide somewhere on tne internets:)

    Last edited by Lopano (20-Dec-2022 14:52:41)
    Offline
    • 0