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    Faster speed?

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    I used to type QWERTY for 2 years before learning to type Colemak, and I used to type at ~60 wpm. I started Colemak on November 17th and now again I can type on average at ~60 wpm. Sometimes I peak at 62 or 63 but never anything higher than 65 in my life, ever...

    I'm just wondering if there is any strategy that anyone with high speeds that learned Colemak has used to improve their typing speed, because I just find that 60 wpm is the bare minimum for me.

    Any programs that are suggested or strategies are appreciated, thanks in advance!

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    Sure, here're a few tips:

    * Try to look ahead while typing, i.e. look at the next word instead of the one you're currently typing.
    * Try to keep a nice and even pace. Slow down for particularly hard words rather than make mistakes.
    * When practicing, go for accuracy sometimes, speed sometimes.
    * Let your hands hover above the keyboard while typing. Accentuate movements with your hands.
    * Learn alternate fingering. While not nearly as useful on Colemak as on Qwerty I think you can eke out another 5 wpm or so with these tricks. Look elsewhere in the forum for the particulars.
    * Get a better keyboard; One with a light touch and good key switches.

    Last edited by tomlu (07-Jan-2009 16:18:49)
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    To add to tomlu's advice - I find it helps considerably to have good posture. Sit with your back fully straight when practising. Also, Amphetype by tristesse has done wonders for my typing:

    https://code.google.com/p/amphetype/

    Highly recommended.

    As for keyboards, I find Cherry Blues to be the lightest touch. I can type for hours with no discomfort at all. Have a look for:

    Cherry G80-3000
    Das Keyboard
    Ione Scorpius

    Last edited by simonh (07-Jan-2009 17:51:22)

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    Hmm, what's funny is that with Colemak I touch-type fully but with QWERTY I only used 5 fingers yet the speed is the same. The Das Keyboard Ultimate looks awesome since the keys are unmarked which means custom Colemak time, but all of these keyboard seem like they are a bit too expensive. Hmm, I downloaded amphetype also and it seems like it is a very useful program indeed. Thanks for the feedback, and it seems like I have to develop a constant rhythm like Ryan Heise says on his website.

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    Apparently, the Das mark II has an error in the microcontroller routines. Well, arguably it's a design choice rather than an error per se but the scan rate is low which will matter if you type some keys very fast.

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    What's the point of getting an expensive straight keyboard with no key labeling when you can just put stickers/whiteout/whatever on your existing keyboard?

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    migo: The point is the mechanical switches and the build quality. The Das comes with or without letters

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    I wish I could get hold of an IBM M-type clicky keyboard (with a VK_102 key). I'd paint it.  :)

    The best I've managed so far is a Dell board with black Cherry switches. Clicky, but not perfect. It doesn't have the Win/GUI and Menu keys, but I can work around that.

    Last edited by DreymaR (07-Jan-2009 22:45:32)

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    Still, straight keyboard. If you're going to buy another keyboard, I can't think of any reason to get a Das over a MS NKB Elite 4K, particularly at that price.

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    migo: As was clearly stated, the point of the Das is the mechanical switches. The Microsoft Natural series have soft dome switches. Which one you prefer may be a matter of taste, but what is not a matter of taste is that mechanical key switches are much more expensive to manufacture. That, and economy of scale, is why the Das keyboard costs more.

    If you want longer travel, especially with overtravel, as well as strong auditory and tactile feedback, mechanical switches is the way to go and you are just going to have to pay up.

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    Well for the record, what is overtravel and how can it improve typing speed and comfort? It sounds like something negative...

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    Over travel is the extra distance a key travels after it has been activated before it bottoms out. It allows you to not hit the unyielding surface of the keyboard where your finger will come to a hard stop. It is especially useful in combination with tactile feedback so you can exactly gauge the force necessary to activate a key.

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    As I posted in another thread, here is a short demonstration of how the Cherry blue works:

    http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/tech/c … _click.swf

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    This page describes the difference between some popular switch types:

    http://www.ergocanada.com/ergo/keyboard … tches.html

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    That explains why mechanical keyboards are so expensive...I still have to use the one that came with my four year old XP PC. I'm in high school now, and I don't have a job and I also doubt that anyone will buy me one, because they don't realize the value that one of those keyboard could actually provide. I don't think that anyone else will want to spend any money on a keyboard just so I can improve my speed on an alternative keyboard layout. Hmm, guess I should just continue practicing and get one of those Cherry keyboards when I'm on my own budget.

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    You could always try buying a second hand one. I bought my first mechanical 'board for £2! Check on ebay, charity shops etc.

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    Wow, they're really cheap on ebay with most of them costing like 10 dollars and 20 with shipping. The one thing that I see is that many of them don't have number pads which I need because I use it often when I write my labs and do calculations on the computers calculator. Thanks for all the help, I'll try to get one if I can.

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    In my opinion, numpads are teh evil anyway since they force your mousing arm so far away from your body. If you really need one, get a cheap separate USB numpad and put it on whichever side of the keyboard you are not currently mousing on. Problem solved and your shoulders will thank you.

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    Just program a NumPad if you want one. For instance, in Windows you could have a NumPad on the SGCaps state so that pressing CapsLock turned it on and off. I'd recommend making LUY into 789, NEI into 456 and KM,. into 0123 - or you could do like on most laptops and keep 789 from the normal layout etc.

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    Yeah that makes a lot of sense, but I realized that numpad increases my finger distance a lot so instead I have started to use the regular assortment of numbers for most of my work, just to get used to it for when I get my mechanical keyboard that may or may not have a numpad. Thanks for the advice though. If I never get used to it, it looks like that is what I will have to do.

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