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    statistical data on colemak and real typing effort experience?

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    • Registered: 06-Oct-2008
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    I have experienced two factors which make typing slow and/or hands fatigue. The obvious one is finger movement, anyone agree here. But there is also tension in your muscles which contribute significantly to fatigue and health problems.

    Any time I wish to could turkey any new or not used for long keyboard layout I am aware of additional tension so I do it cautiously. But with Dvorak and Qwerty it seems to wanish completely whilst with Colemak still I cannot overcome it. Currently I am stick to this layout and even started to "feel it" how well it performs in longer text. Hovewer just recently I have got burning sensation in my hands. The vains become clearly visible in blue under the skin. Of course I kept off the keyboard for the whole weekend. I am still thinking why this happened. It seems for me that my muscles keep certain level of strain because I force them to stay constantly on the home row. Whilst it is merely the same with Dvorak layout, maybe the frequent hands alternation on the latter help to release the tension. I do not know for sure yet.

    The comofort position on the keyboard for me is to keep pinky and index finger on home row but ring and middle on top row. I will try to make more frequent brakes from typing at work and keep my hands comfortably on the keyboard when not typing (instead of keeping them on the home row constantly).

    I am not trying to put away anyone here from trying Colemak but I see it worth to warn you to keep an eye on how your hands feel. I will update what happened with my hands in the following days.

    As to how much I type factor: I was trainning everyday for 30-40 minutes, average 47WPM; at work I am coding so it is hardly ever constant typing.

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    • From: Houston, Texas
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    Are you training 30-40 minutes straight ? 

    Maybe break it up into two 15-20 minute sessions.

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    • Registered: 17-Dec-2008
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    Are you keeping your fingers strictly on your home keys?  Like, with Qwerty, I assume your left hand is on AWEF the way you describe things.  So to type EC, would you try keeping your other fingers firmly planted on A, W, and F while reaching for and typing E with your middle finger?  If so, that could be one reason for the tension.  To type that example, I'd keep my pinkie on the A, but let my ring finger and index finger "float" down with my middle finger.  It ends up that there's only a little bit of tension in my pinkie and middle finger, and I release that tension as soon as I can--the rest of the fingers and hand relax.  Maybe that's not "proper style," but damn if I'm going to favor style over health and comfort!  HTH.

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    When typing I do not keep fingers on any particular position, the fingers seems to know where they should go with the typing flow. I have observed today that my laptop keyboard is too stiff and the keys travel so little that I bounce too hard the bottom. I am going to restrain myself from typing on my laptop keyboard. Luckily the day passed without any big harm to my fingers :-)

    I assume that this is not common case seeing no posts sharing my pain - good news anyway!

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    Hi, do not worry! My pain has greatly reduced. I just need to give my hands some more time to recovery (and do not practise so hard - I thought that half an hour is no big deal...?).

    To my couriosity I have just done the test on higames - no drop of speed. Woohoo!

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    http://hi-games.net/typing-test/embed.cgi?u=1101

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    I have observed today that my laptop keyboard is too stiff and the keys travel so little that I bounce too hard the bottom.

    This is why mechanical key switches with tactile feedback are valuable - they allow you to precisely gauge the force necessary for activating the switch. But even on laptop keyboards you could try and ease back a little and only hit the keys with the minimum necessary force.

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    tomlu said:

    But even on laptop keyboards you could try and ease back a little and only hit the keys with the minimum necessary force.

    I am trying but do not why I uncounsciously bounce hard. It seems to me that certain flow of letters cause me to hit them hard - for sure 'el' 'le' - and also when I am correcting mistakes (though it seems stupid behaviour).

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    • From: Viken, Norway
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    I hate the Backspace key. My PKL 'extend' setup has it on CapsLock+'o' (and Del on the apostrophe), which I find far less stressful - even if the poor pinky is still in charge of the deletions. No wonder you hammer down the BS proper, having to fly up to the corner in an already frustrated state.  ;)

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