Seriously, the name is one of the worst enemies? Not people's pigheaded lazy persistent cluelessness, for instance? Give me a break.

Personally, I don't feel any problems with the E-M transition. Since I angle my hands slightly outwards, the right index finger slides quite effortlessly down a row to find the M key. Then again, you type faster than me overall from what I gather so maybe I'm not the one to tell.

I feel that the name Colemak has personality. Names like the ones you suggest look awfully run-of-the-mill to me; how many things are called Neo, Star or Standard already, you think? In my town there's even a toy store named Standard. That name always struck me as dull - you don't want "standard" toys but FUN and EXCITING and INNOVATIVE toys! To its defense, it's an old shop.

Sorry, I forgot a smiley in there. Remember that I wasn't trying to win someone over, but chat with an insider. Sorry if I was unclear. My statement was meant to emphasize that I think the progress of Colemak isn't mainly hampered by its name. At all, really.

That 9-yo probably isn't anywhere near lazy, no. But I wasn't talking about her - I was referring to people who are told and explained properly the alternatives, and still respond with a shrug and a "can't be arsed, although you're probably right - I just don't care". I'd never call them pigheaded to their faces, but I do find it annoying that people in general are so unwilling to change things for the better. Hence the crack.

Names that contain, as you say, information about the layout really don't imo. What does ARSTDHNEIO, ARENSITO, QWERF and suchlike tell people? Not much, I'm afraid. All the names that are based on the QWERTY name may be the worst because that's a not very interesting part of the layout anyway - apart from the horror of the E placement in the original QWERTY of course. And even that name still doesn't tell the layman much. So I'll say it's better to go for a name with personality instead.

The t-shirt variety (which I don't consider a problem but an amusing playground for the imagination!), again, isn't due to the name. It's due to the fact that there are many creative personalities here letting their minds run free. We have different wishes and the results are different too. If I were trying to make one official t-shirt based on that thread I might be frustrated, but that wasn't my intent. I just want to discuss ideas and hopefully arrive at a design I can use for a shirt I can buy. As mentioned, nowadays you can buy t-shirts based on an uploaded image quite cheaply.

I've only barely heard the name Arsenio Hall and was unaware that he was a comedian. I'm not ignorant about culture in general, so if he were well-known around here I'd have heard about it I think. Either you disregard the non-US world or you overestimate the internationality of his fame. I just thought I'd tell you in case it's the latter.

I think that 'Colemak' is here to stay now, and I'm not at all unhappy about it. But one sweet name would've been SHAI.  :)

- We already have Java. Now how about a cuppa Chai... errr... Shai? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai
- Shai. It is your destiny! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shai
- It can be typed as a home row exercise! shai shai shai shai shai shai shai shai shai ...

:)

Here you go:

Now get a life!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Heb … Symbol.svg (Chai, a Hebrew symbol of living!)

Enough fluff: In actuality, the name Shai means "gift". It strikes me that Colemak is also a gift from Shai to the world.
http://www.learn-hebrew-names.com/Show- … e-en89.htm

Not so fond of that idea myself, since Shai never did this shifting mess - that's our misdemeanor.  :)

What about Sholemak... oh hang on, sounds like Sholes has returned from the grave to haunt us!

No, really: I'd not invent a fancy name for a row-shifted Colemak at all, and I'd not sell the idea either. Just try it out in relative silence, at least for now. If you become overenthusiastic, then is the time to go a-preaching.

I'm still happy with my half-shifted one, by the way. I think I may call it... Tim? No. ColemakSh is my own working title - Colemak with a shift (and it sounds like an almost-but-not-quite, which in fact it is).

Shai if it means gift is an excellent name. Perhaps it could go as both...

Or better yet, SHAI could be an ergonomic modification that moves Z to the top row (shifting the bottom row left one key) and P down to the left of B (shifting the top row one key right) so that the left hand has the same comfortable slant as the right hand on a standard keyboard.

I think most people know the difference between good and ill will.

* I never suggested that I intended to take an action.
* I pointed out that if SHAI meant "gift" it would be a good name (for him or other Colemak devotees to use).
* If some one used my name in conjunction with existentialism, or a meaning associated with the name (I don't know what the name means aside form a dead philosopher) I'd take no offense at all.
* If some one used nTheia in some way, I'd be flattered.

I think you'll be alright.