Amen to that. Its an Easter miracle.

Just when I discover Jesus does Dvorak, he levitates towards Colemak!

What say you try Colemak before getting behind it?

I am not into Colemak to benefit myself.  I am in it for the masses.  The underlying economics behind switching from QWERTY to Dvorak or QWERTY to Colemak are basically the same.  It is in the making of the actual changeover for everyone where Tarmak makes all the difference.

DreymaR = When I spoke about economics I was referring to macro economics: the amount saved by society as a whole.  Remember, my mission is to see to it that Colemak becomes the standard keyboard for everyone.  And, this is a valid concern regardless of the future of speech recognition.

DreymaR.  No arguement intended.  Obviously Colemak wins in every regard when it comes to switching.  When I began my campaign to clear up the QWERTY mess Colemak wasn't even invented.  I spoke about the QWERTY situation on the Howard Stern Show in February of 2011 and at that point in time the only alternative that I knew about was Dvorak.  Then about three months later somewhere I heard that somebody was using a Kinesis - Colemak. (it may have been you)  I asked them what Colemak was and they seemed shocked to hear that I'd never heard about it.  Since then I've studied the situatioin and being as some layout has to stop the QWERTY mess I chose to promote Colemak.  I am currently working on a lawsuit that involves product liability.

Colemak was most likely a hack to make typing on traditional Qwerty style boards easier/better.  I personally think that these boards are the crux of the problem, or rather they don't help.  Any radical departure doesn't seem to take off that well.  Kinesis advantage looks to be a nice design, but heavily leans on Maltron.  And it's interesting to see that Maltron after going after a different physical approach to keys and layout, also binned Qwerty in favour of their own in house layout.

Have you seen the kinesis advantage 2? Is this a new bit of kit or has it been around for a while?

I'm of the opinion recently that keyboards are good enough and that a more ergonomic alternative isn't worth losing the ability to touch type on laptops or other peoples machines

I also probably wouldn't reccomend colemak over qwerty for similar reasons, but I'm too far down the line now to retreat

I don't have regrets, but at the same time I wouldn't be sad not to have gone down this route

In other words, both qwerty and normal rubber domes are fit(ish) for purpose

For me, there isn't an obvious win between making typing more ergonomic/efficient and losing the 'same hardware/layout as everything else' benefit

Thats coming from someone who never suffered RSI though..

I had a Kinesis-Dvorak for about four years, before it got stolen.  It takes quite some time to get back up to speed, but once you do there is nothing quite like it.  It is a pleasure.  My speed went up dramatically and talk about comfort.  Once I get this Colemak layout mastered I am going to get another Kinesis.  After I first learned on the  Kinesis switching between Kinesis-Dvorak and QWERTY-based-Dvorak was not a problem. 

Today I started searching for a lawyer to take on the QWERTY class action law suit.  I have a couple of good angles based on product liability.  As the QWERTY keyboard was not designed for touch typing it may mean going after anyone who teaches you how to touch type on a QWERTY.  This is based on the legal principle of Warranty which demands that a product be safe for its end use.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the QWERTY keyboard when it is used as it was designed to be used; by two fingered typists looking at the keys while they type.  It is ONLY when touch typing enters the picture that it becomes a physical hazard.  Therefore manufacturers have a duty to warn against its use in that manner.  And it is a tort to teach someone to use it that way.  At least that is my argument.  I feel that is the best way to open the door for an alternative.  I am betting that the Colemak-Tarmak system will win the battle of alternates.

I have a nagging feeling that it won't be easy to corroborate the claims sufficiently to stand up in a court of law.

But then again, just stirring up the pot will create publicity which is A Good Thing™! ;-)

You know, at some thoughts, I personally do not care what Colemak may be associated with. Major issue is that it is not known. I found Colemak accidentally while it existed for ten years to that moment. I kind of interested in alternative layouts, but for my knowledge there was always only one existed - Dvorak.
Most people do not know even about Dvorak. Most people do not bother in that matter, and will never bother. There is no method to convince these people that changing their keyboard's layout make sense, while they use keyboard every day. Any "stirring up the pot" will be for better.
Though any efforts in this direction will cause annoyance, because this will be considered like proposing improved alphabet.

Colemak is merely a better ergonomic data entry layout for a mechanical printing apparatus that was state of the art in 1873. In a perfect world we'd all be using Maltron.  I am promoting Colemak-Kinesis for pros, PKL USBs for the transition period and dual labeling as the immediate standard.

Have no fear Wonderful is here.  Yesterday I registered a patent application on a keyboard that features Colemak and that I will produce in mass Quantity.  Its main feature is a numerical keypad in telephone order. one to nine from the top down. I plan on donating 10 percent of the proceeds to Shai and five percent to the team that developed Tarmak.  I will let DreymaR determine who is to get a share of the five percent.

To see the Specifications as taken from the patent application visit BestComputerKeyboards.com