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    16-Apr-2019 07:43:27#1 tarmak and bilingual transition

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    I have reached 38wpm today. It is still not enough but will probably get better soon.
    I had some problem with switching because I decided I will type with qwerty when typing in Japanese. and i switch A LOT daily. I'm still getting confused sometimes.

    I also decided to use my custom extend layer on caps lock (mostly arrows and backspace) and I have one dead key for symbols between "o" and enter.

    Colemak is comfortable so I probably won't switching back. I am still not sure what to do about the Japanese.

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    17-Apr-2019 10:35:03#2 Re: tarmak and bilingual transition

    If your Extend layer is mostly arrows and Back, you should seriously consider adding home row modifiers! They up your game something fierce.

    Since a Japanese IME should use letter mnemonics (I think?) it makes more sense to me to base it on Colemak since you type latin letters with Colemak. I think it's possible to keep both QWERTY and Colemak fresh though; I just don't want to.

    Last edited by DreymaR (17-Apr-2019 10:37:14)

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    19-Apr-2019 10:58:46#3 Re: tarmak and bilingual transition

    Well, my typing speed is currently not the best on colemak (40wpm), so I will think about switching my Japanese when I get comfortable with colemak.
    Also, am thinking about dh mod but its more non-standard so currently no.
    I am still figuring out how to place symbols and number, everything except home how is kinda uncomfortable.
    Also I use a few symbol combinations, for example => , (), ();
    Dead key on the right pinky next to O is quite nice.
    I also tried mouse movement on keyboard but feels weird.

    I will try modifiers though, thanks. Actually decided to go with similar key positions as in your extend layer. Works great for arrows and backspace.

    About the Japanese keyboard, I think it could use something other than colemak since bigram situation is very different

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    23-Apr-2019 08:58:24#4 Re: tarmak and bilingual transition

    The big question is whether you want to use two layouts or whether having one layout is the best after all. I think Colemak could work decently for Japanese kana.

    Are you on Windows? If you use my EPKL, you can have Extend mappings that input for instance (); then move the cursor between the parentheses! Like an IDE light if you like. You could do the same with, e.g., AltGr or dead key mappings if you wish.

    I recommend Colemak-DH and ideally a Wide mod too! You'll deviate from the OS-packed layout soon enough anyway if you're a little adventurous and want what's best for you. Plus, Colemak-ⲔⲰ[eD] is awesome!  d( ^◇^)b

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