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Jhoravi
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09-Oct-2021 04:57:19#1 Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

Hi, I've been training Colemak for almost 3 months using an external mechanical keyboard with thumb for shift and backspace. I decided to transfer my skill to my laptop keyboard using EPKL and successfully set the wide angle curl mod. My only problem is thumb keys for shift and backspace that I got comfortable from mechanical keyboard. Here are the keys I need configured for my laptop keyboard.

tap the right ALT = BackSpace
hold the right ALT = SHIFT

Thanks in advance for the help

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10-Oct-2021 15:19:45#2 Re: Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

EPKL can't do those, unless you're a very skilled programmer (in which case I'd like to cooperate with you on it).

For Backspace, I use Extend+O (or Ext+T+O for Ctrl+Back to delete whole words).

The Extend modifier can be dual-role, but not RAlt nor LAlt as it is now. However, you can make your RAlt a Shift key using SharpKeys (it's in the Other folder of EPKL, or download it yourself). You could for instance swap the RShift and RAlt keys this way.

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10-Oct-2021 16:22:42#3 Re: Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

KMonad supports dual-role keys with options for tap, hold and sticky.

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10-Oct-2021 23:24:50#4 Re: Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

DreymaR said:

EPKL can't do those, unless you're a very skilled programmer (in which case I'd like to cooperate with you on it).
For Backspace, I use Extend+O (or Ext+T+O for Ctrl+Back to delete whole words).
The Extend modifier can be dual-role, but not RAlt nor LAlt as it is now. However, you can make your RAlt a Shift key using SharpKeys (it's in the Other folder of EPKL, or download it yourself). You could for instance swap the RShift and RAlt keys this way.

Thanks for the suggestion Dreymar. My main issue is actually the standard position of shift keys because it requires some degree of uncomfortable wrist effort. Is SharpKeys as portable as EPKL when I wanna type on someone else's PC?

EDIT: Accessing the shift keys from CapsLock and EnterKey locations feels far more comfortable than their conventional positions. I wish there's an EPKL mod for that.

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10-Oct-2021 23:35:36#5 Re: Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

stevep99 said:

KMonad support dual-role keys with options for tap, hold and sticky.

Thanks for the suggestion stevep99. I'm going to try KMonad for mapping keys. Is Kmonad is as portable as EPKL when I need to type on other peoples computer?

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13-Oct-2021 09:59:29#6 Re: Help on EPKL for Backspace and Shift using Thumb

Jhoravi said:

stevep99 said:
KMonad support dual-role keys with options for tap, hold and sticky.
Thanks for the suggestion stevep99. I'm going to try KMonad for mapping keys. Is Kmonad is as portable as EPKL when I need to type on other peoples computer?

On Linux at least you have to do some a bit config with the uinput device, which needs root access. Not sure about Windows/Mac but something similar I'd guess.

So I'd say no: KMonad is less portable than EPKL.

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