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    How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

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    06-May-2019 00:48:34#1 How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

    I am using Windows 10. How can I disable AltGr in Colemak and return that key to RightAlt? I find Windows shortcuts that I can do with both hands to be more valuable than AltGr.

    Example shortcuts I use all the time are RightAlt + Tab for instant window toggle and RightAlt + F4 to close a window. Neither works with AltGr.

    I have tried SharpKeys but for some reason it barfs on AltGr, can't accept it for remapping. When I enter AltGr > RightAlt in SharpKeys, it seems to write it to the registry as RightAlt > RightAlt.

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    06-May-2019 08:27:07#2 Re: How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

    Did you use the MSKLC installer? If so, that's set to use AltGr. You could edit the .klc file with MSKLC to set it to two-level, but that's a bit technical.

    Another option is to use EPKL instead. I could walk you through the how-to.

    This isn't an issue for SharpKeys a.k.a. registry remapping. The keyboard sends RAlt and the OS layout turns that into LCtrl+RAlt=AltGr, so you couldn't remap it away.

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    04-Jul-2019 23:42:34#3 Re: How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

    Could you hint how to edit the .klc file? I've solved the other issue by editing it, so guess I'm locked into this path.

    I have to attest the most time-consumind part of the switch to Colemak has been the computer configuration. Learning the new layout was a breeze, one evening in keyboard trainer to remember the key positions, followed by cold-turkey real usage. I think the user-unfriendly setup and lack of pre-configured support in Windows is the biggest issue, especially when dealing with multi-language setups. I understand fine-tuning the configuration is not difficult for a computer geek, just I don't have time to be one :).

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    15-Jul-2019 12:23:13#4 Re: How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

    As the maker of EPKL (besides Farkas Máté who made PKL) I try to support it. I can't support MSKLC though, and I don't remember how to do that. I do remember that editing modifiers is, as I said, technical. You can't use the GUI for such things, and have to compile manually.

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    10-Aug-2019 20:57:44#5 Re: How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

    I remapped RightAlt to LeftAlt with SharpKeys.

    Dvorak typist here.  Please take my comments with a grain of salt.

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    12-Aug-2019 00:05:27#6 Re: How to get rid of AltGr mapping?
    spremino said:

    I remapped RightAlt to LeftAlt with SharpKeys.

    My fault! Indeed that works! Problem solved.

    (I had forgotten that I earlier remapped my mac's keyboard control keys, therefore it was barfing on a duplicate reassignment. Just editing my original reassignment to LeftAlt has worked. Oh well.)

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