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    How to get rid of AltGr mapping?

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    I am using Windows 10. How can I disable AltGr in Colemak and return that key to RightAlt? I find Windows shortcuts that I can do with both hands to be more valuable than AltGr.

    Example shortcuts I use all the time are RightAlt + Tab for instant window toggle and RightAlt + F4 to close a window. Neither works with AltGr.

    I have tried SharpKeys but for some reason it barfs on AltGr, can't accept it for remapping. When I enter AltGr > RightAlt in SharpKeys, it seems to write it to the registry as RightAlt > RightAlt.

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    Did you use the MSKLC installer? If so, that's set to use AltGr. You could edit the .klc file with MSKLC to set it to two-level, but that's a bit technical.

    Another option is to use EPKL instead. I could walk you through the how-to.

    This isn't an issue for SharpKeys a.k.a. registry remapping. The keyboard sends RAlt and the OS layout turns that into LCtrl+RAlt=AltGr, so you couldn't remap it away.

    Last edited by DreymaR (06-May-2019 08:28:45)

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    Could you hint how to edit the .klc file? I've solved the other issue by editing it, so guess I'm locked into this path.

    I have to attest the most time-consumind part of the switch to Colemak has been the computer configuration. Learning the new layout was a breeze, one evening in keyboard trainer to remember the key positions, followed by cold-turkey real usage. I think the user-unfriendly setup and lack of pre-configured support in Windows is the biggest issue, especially when dealing with multi-language setups. I understand fine-tuning the configuration is not difficult for a computer geek, just I don't have time to be one :).

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    As the maker of EPKL (besides Farkas Máté who made PKL) I try to support it. I can't support MSKLC though, and I don't remember how to do that. I do remember that editing modifiers is, as I said, technical. You can't use the GUI for such things, and have to compile manually.

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    I remapped RightAlt to LeftAlt with SharpKeys.

    Dvorak typist here.  Please take my comments with a grain of salt.

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    spremino said:

    I remapped RightAlt to LeftAlt with SharpKeys.

    My fault! Indeed that works! Problem solved.

    (I had forgotten that I earlier remapped my mac's keyboard control keys, therefore it was barfing on a duplicate reassignment. Just editing my original reassignment to LeftAlt has worked. Oh well.)

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